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    Out of a 3 minute trailer, I saw 15 seconds of gameplay. But let’s be real. This is Bethesda. We know what to expect. Tons of bugs and an already prepared statement to release after people realize their $70-$300 game isn’t released in a playable state. The best thing to do is wait for release. Check out reviews from your favorite source and also User reviews. Then wait a year for the community mod that fixes all the bugs that Bethesda was not able to fix. Then you might as well wait another year for DLC and for Starfield to be on sale.

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    The Starfield Direct showing really sold me on this. It looks like it comes the closest to my dream space game of anything released so far. Elite Dangerous nailed the feel of piloting your own spacecraft, but I didn’t get on with the actual structure of the game. No Man’s Sky continues to do amazing things, but its spaceflight feels a bit too stripped back for me and it still feels a little too aimless for my tastes.

    This looks like a perfect middle ground, all backed up with a full blown Bethesda RPG too keep me engaged. :D

    My only criticisms based on the Direct are that characters, and indeed character interactions still look a bit dated compared to more recent games, especially Cyberpunk 2077, and that the combat still looks a little janky. Don’t get me wrong, it looks a lot better than Bethesda’s older games, but still seems to be showcasing some rather basic AI and spongey enemies. Hopefully the RPG elements will make this side of the game feel more rewarding.

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      The characters seem to still being doing that Bethesda thing where they just stand in attention at you and stare you down lol.

      Really curious to see how the combat actually feels and if there will be a V.A.T.S. like system, I know that’s something that a lot of people like and the combat is this game looks a lot faster than any combat in a Bethesda game before. So it could turn some people off who aren’t a big fan of fast paced combat but really enjoy Bethesda stories and worlds.

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        I don’t think there’s anything like VATS, but I’m hoping a lot of combat is optional. You can definitely talk, or at least stealth your way past some of it.

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        I think it’s very funny that everyone familiar with Bethesda games saw those NPC interactions and was like “oh yeah that’s a Bethesda rpg.”

        Still, I’m cautiously optimistic. Wait for full release and reviews before purchasing, etc.

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    As always, try to keep your hype in check and wait for the release. It sure looks good now but we’ll never know until someone has played it.

    Let’s hope it will work out excellent!

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    After that 45 minute breakdown I’m very excited for No Man’s Skyrim. I can definitely understand the hesitation, it’s almost definitely gonna be riddled with bugs on release, but I’ve got gamepass, so I’ll happily beta test for y’all!

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    I really like what I’m seeing, ranging from the depth of things to do, to how granular the systems are, to how much I love the art direction Bethesda has taken. That said, it still won’t be a day-1 buy for me when it launches, I simply don’t trust big AAA releases anymore and will wait at least a little while to see if it’s simply unpolished, or flat-out broken.

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      Starfield players on day one: “This game is incredible and life-changing! I’m so glad I pre-ordered!”

      Starfield players on day 2: “PSA to new players, be careful not to go into space or else your save will get corrupted!”

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    Maybe I am just incredibly contrarian, but the art direction really inspires no emotions in me. I understand the idea of “NASApunk” but it looks like every DeviantArt near future art page. Blocky construction with a lot of triangle shaped cutouts and scalloping.

    There is the cowboy sector and the cyberpunk sector, and on their own they look more interesting, but it seems like a kitchen sink approach to a tone instead of something with a more coherent identity.

    I hope the game has more heart and identity, and I end up being one of those haters shown in a retrospective video on how great it is.

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      I completely agree with this take, including the “I hope I’m wrong” bit. It just looks… bland? Like it’s relying on the idea of space being expansive and vast and full of… well, everything that exists - but in the end will it just feel like a Bethesda game with space assets subbed in?

      Then again I still play No Mans Sky so my desperation to be a space-man is obviously without limit.

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      Agree mainly for me it’s the npcs. They really look like assassins creed npcs. No real character in them just the bare human minimum lol.

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    I’m excited! It looks to have combined the universe of No Man’s Sky, the main storyline of Interstellar & Contact, and the diversity of factions and cities of Skyrim. I’m a Patient Gamer so I won’t be preordering (this game or any other), but I’m optimistic we will (eventually) have a winner.

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    Looks cool, but didn’t look like it featured that much gameplay on a “Gameplay Trailer”. My trust in Bethesda is at an all-time low, but let’s see if they manage to pull this one through, without it being an empty universe with generic gameplay.

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      This new trailer combined with the year old one does give some idea of what to expect. I got a feeling that mechanics-wise it’s going to be pretty close to Fallout 4 and also the art direction seems to be heavily inspired from the Fallout series as well.

      If the same team really has worked on this that worked on Skyrim and Fallout 4 then I expect quite a decent gaming experience. There will be all the amusing bugs and lots of repetitive quests but then again also I would expect some kind of coherent atmosphere and story telling. It’s been so long since Skyrim and FO4 were released and I still keep going back to play them because the world has a story after all and somehow there’s still something new to find out after all these years.

      In FO4 for example I played through the Cabot quest line and had never really given any thought of reading through their terminals and stuff. There’s quite a lot of story telling for such a small quest line but it’s not forcily fed to the player if they just want to get all the fancy stuff from the quest and keep on crunching through all the other quests in the world.

      Yeah, I’m most definitely going to buy this at launch. I think FO76 has been the only really bad release from Bethesda (and I’ve been around gaming stuff actively since Oblivion) so I’m going to be an optimistic with this one!

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      I’m def starting to think that planets might have the no man’s sky issue and just be blank environment with nothing of real value in it.

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        Yes! My thoughts exactly. I don’t see how this game can capture the world building of Skyrim or Fallout and still have the same exploration feel of No Man’s Sky (which comes at a huge cost in my view), who knows, maybe they prove me wrong.

        If they can’t combine both experiences and the game ends up closer to the other Bethesda games, with good lore and decent story, I might check it out. If it ends up more like NMS, than it’s definetly not my cup of tea (but there are a lot of other folks interested in that type of game).

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      Thank you!! I thought I was the only one who noticed this! There was like 15 seconds of actual gameplay out of a 3 minute trailer. I hate how people are gushing over that trailer. It showed the potential, but not what’s actually there…but this is Bethesda, we know what to expect.

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    Don’t know why but I’m skeptical. AAA releases have been quite often a disappointment for me the past few years. Hope it’s going to keep the promise…

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      I like the look of the game (compared to No Mans Sky) but I can’t trust Bethesda. I won’t preorder, but I’ve got hope.

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      It’s Bethesda so I wouldn’t be surprised if there’s bugs at launch. But still looks pretty cool!

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        Bugs? No sir, here at Bethesda those are called “features” or, as we like to say, “Modder’s Delight”.

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        Zelda was just the same as BOTW. If you liked the first game sure you’ll probably enjoy TOTK. But it fixed none of the numerous issues that many people had with the game, and created a lot more on top.

        Not to mention it’s years later and still limited by 2009 tech

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    Excited for the ship building and the fact I can land anywhere on a planet. I’ll try this out since I have Game Pass.

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    That got me pretty hyped.

    The ships, cities, space travel, combat and planets look awesome.

    Less enthused by the character designs and models which look straight out of Skyrim. Character faces still have dead eyes and barely any expression to them which frankly seems a little unacceptable in 2023. Nevertheless this is a day one for me, this looks like it has loads to enjoy.

    And as soon as the mods start coming out oh boy, it’s going to be pretty awesome.

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    I don’t get the hype… I watched the gameplay trailer and it looks intensely underwhelming. Ignoring the sales jabber, it looks like a big, empty world which, at its best, is a knockoff of No Man’s Sky. They barely show any shots that aren’t the PC staring at a big, uninspired vista or having bland combat in bland sets. Considering how Bethesda releases go, how AAA releaes in general go, and the fact that trailers like these are supposed to OVERsell the game, I’m not really all that interested right now.

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      Considering how Bethesda releases go

      Fallout 76 was a flop because it just is a bad game, but haven’t Bethesda releases been otherwise a great success pretty much always? Oblivion, Skyrim, single player Fallout games have all been great hits and are still actively played to this date.

      That’s why I’m actually slightly hyped for this. I reflect the trailer to the gaming experience of Fallout 4 and get the feeling that this is just going to be yet another Bethesda game I’ll be playing after 10 years still. Sure, there are going to be lots of funny and not so funny bugs but I guess nowadays that’s the way every game is released.

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        Bethesda games are usually succesful, Bethesda releases are usually a pile of crap. I can get past the “release $70 garbage and patch it up” model, but I don’t see anything here that makes me want to. I could totally end up loving it - not going to completely write it off based on trailers - but nothing I’m seeing here looks all that interesting.

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          I’ve never had a bad experience on release with any of the Bethesda games I’ve played. Morrowind, Oblivion, Skyrim, Fallout 3, and Fallout 4.

          I didn’t play 76, and like – fair game.

          But for the games I’ve played it’s never been more than visual / physics bugs, or script events not triggering and doing a quick load to fix it.

          Most importantly, I’ve always had a blast, even with the rough edges. As long as it seems like the devs gave it an honest go, are fixing bugs the players trigger, and the company didn’t lie about the state of the game, it’s just a much better experience to have a little grace around the launch of an ambitious game.

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            I’ve never had a bad experience on release with any of the Bethesda games I’ve played. Morrowind, Oblivion, Skyrim, Fallout 3, and Fallout 4.

            For about 10 years you literally couldn’t play Fallout 3 on PC without a user created mod. Until MS bought them, they still had Windows Live which was broken and stopped you being able to play the game if you were on Windows 7+

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              To be fair Windows Live for Gaming (or whatever it was called) DID function on release. It was dropped after a few years and doesn’t really count as a bad release.

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          Ah, good distinction! Yeah, I guess that’s true and without a huge modding community Bethesda games would also be kind of crap or not as highly valued at least.

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            Don’t ignore the fact that their games were still highly praised even before consoles got mods in 2016.

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        Bethesda has a better track record than the bandwagon naysayers want you to believe. It all comes down to personal preference though and I have loved pretty much everything they put out. Form your own opinions. Not that of sad neckbeards with nothing better to do that crap on what you love.

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      It’s pulling the same strings in people that star citizen has for a decade now. I personally also really want a good immersive space sim game - I don’t know if bethesda can deliver it, I am pretty sure I will be disappointed with how shallow it is since they tend to cater to the masses - but I’d be lying if I said I wasn’t excited to see how it turns out, if they maybe manage to pull it off this time.

      After all, what else is there to look forward to in this genre?

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        I’ve had similar thoughts, but immediately think: fuck it, modders will fill spaces. This isn’t a game, it’s a framework I’m happy exists

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      Yeah I’m not massively excited by it, it just looks…bland. Bethesda really excel at world building in general and this just looks very generic. I hope to be wrong but I doubt I will be.

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    I want to be able to play this in vr. Modded Skyrimvr is probably the best gaming experience I’ve ever had.

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    I’m excited. It’s Bethesda so of course it’ll be full of bugs. In some ways it’s become part of the Bethesda charm. The on planet gameplay looks like a very polished No Man’s Sky and that’s a good thing.

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      I refuse to buy into the “bugs are part of the charm” narrative of Bethesda games. It was cute 15 years ago, but they should really be able to release a working game on release by now.

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        They should, but they won’t. It’s already a record selling game in steam. Why would they pay their Devs to iron out all the bugs when mod creators will do it for free?