• A_norny_mousse@piefed.zip
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    3 hours ago

    It’s not just that one line.

    Very often I see the following:

    They have an issue with certain politics affecting them personally, nothing more. They are so close to realizing a few things, but always they stop short and say something like “it should happen to those other people, but not to me, a true believer.”

    And they’d vote for him again.

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    9 hours ago

    A few weeks ago, i had a customer ask “Why is coffee so expensive!?”

    I told her it was the tariffs, she told me “Tariffs wouldn’t do that”

    “Mam, that’s the only thing tariffs do…”

    These people are remarkably immune to reality.

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      If you want to melt their brain: Tell them it’s tariffs and climate change. Coffee is getting expensive in Europe, too.

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        Very expensive. I had to switch from Italian coffee to Spanish coffee lately, and Spanish coffee is terrible.

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        3 hours ago

        Is that why mushroom coffee is starting to take off? Haven’t tried it, but to each their own…

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    12 hours ago

    Have people actually heard folks in their lives say this? Where I am, best case scenario is that they are ignorant to all that’s happening. But more often they are enjoying it.

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        It’s important to realize that in a cult, whether it be a personality cult or religious, the imaginary caricature that they worship has little to do with why they are in it; it’s all about ego washing and pandering to themselves, sometimes in a sunk cost fallacy but plenty of times just simply because they’ve developed a dependency for the illusion to be there, justifying any deviations in reality as just being a deviation of their illusion which should remain forever pristine lest they risk their ego collapsing along with it.

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      I doubt it. I talk with MAGAts at work … they are happy that ICE is getting the illegals out.

      That’s it. That is all they really care about. They think the economy is fine. They want the Epstein files released so the Clintons (both Hillary and Bill apparently) will go to jail. If Trump is in the files it is of course a setup. Never ever underestimate how snowed and stupid MAGA members are.

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        9 hours ago

        That’s probably because they’re not impacted.

        The ones reconsidering their votes are the ones that can’t afford their bills because their business was hurt by tariffs and the ones losing neighbors that they thought would be safe because they were “the good ones”.

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      I actually have. My mother in law fell for the con hook, line, and sinker. Repeating Sinclair network talking points and dismissing verifiable evidence that goes against her worldview.

      Her main thing was “there’s men in women’s sports!!1!” Which …ya know, is not an actual issue like the Commander in Chief blatantly ignoring the law, raping people*, and blackmailing other officials.

      *There is no evidence publicly available that he is currently raping people but he has a long history of it and there’s no evidence he’s stopped.

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    13 hours ago

    Instead of fueling division this energy could be used to advocate for a preferential voting system

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      That takes honest introspection on behalf of those wearing red hats…

      I’ll let you hold your breath on that one.

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      Sure, I’ll advocate for it.

      But it’s not going to happen unless you pay them to make it happen. Until then, it will get thrown into the “later” pile, along with term limits, abortion rights, reductions in military, insider trading law, universal healthcare, and other things 80% of voters want

      Our system now is “you and your family get filthy rich with no legal consequences” vs “do the right thing”, and nobody picks the latter.

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      I disagree. I think public shame is an excellent deterrent. Maybe next time they’ll think engage their brains before defending such an evil platform.

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      could be used to advocate for a preferential voting system

      And who’s going to implement that system? The US government had no interest in doing so because every elected representative currently in office got elected under the current system and thus directly benefits from it. And that’s before it was taken over by fascists who have no interest in the people being able to vote at all.

      You are NOT going to get preferential voting in the US without a complete overthrow and replacement of the government.