• NaibofTabr@infosec.pub
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    22 days ago

    The hole in the ozone layer is now repairing due to international regulation of CFCs

    Acid rain is no longer a problem because of regulation of sulfur dioxide emissions

    Leaded gasoline has now been banned in every country

    Asbestos exposure is rare now due to regulatory controls. It’s bad that it took so long to get done.

    Government regulation is effective in protecting people from health risks.

    Collective action (e.g. through voting) is effective in establishing such regulation.

    If you spread the lie that voting in favor of such policies (and politicians who support them) is a useless waste of time, you are spreading industry propaganda.

    Effective, large-scale change is IN FACT at the polls.

    It is nowhere else.

    • gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de
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      21 days ago

      industry propaganda

      the thing is that cleaner production methods benefit big industry because they get to produce higher-quality products which makes them more profit due to higher price.

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        21 days ago

        the thing is that cleaner production methods benefit big industry because they get to produce higher-quality products which makes them more profit due to higher price.

        Sure, maybe in the long run. But that will cost money now and the quarterly earnings report is due.

      • NaibofTabr@infosec.pub
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        22 days ago

        Yes, actually.

        Do you remember the hole in the ozone layer? It’s self-repairing now because the chemicals that were damaging it were internationally banned - by government regulation.

        Do you remember the acid rain scare? It’s not a problem now because of regulatory control of sulfur dioxide emissions.

        Do you know why gasoline is unleaded?

        Do you know why asbestos is banned in building materials?

        Government regulation actively improves human health and wellbeing, and has prevented several outright disasters from progressing.

        Real change does, in fact, come from voting for politicians that support effective environmental policies. It is industry propaganda that wants you to believe that regulation is ineffective.

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          18 days ago

          And what caused all that? Capitalism, protected and enabled by the state.

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        22 days ago

        If you think it can be done without regulation… Companies don’t care, they will pollute as much as they can. That needs regulation.

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          22 days ago

          you can’t regulate capitalism away. as long as the profit motive isn’t abolished, climate change can’t be solved

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            22 days ago

            Frankly you’re wrong, the other user listed plenty of problems that have been solved and we can solve plenty more. And capitalism isn’t going anywhere, so both your idea and this meme’s idea is just some combination of you sticking your head in the sand, while complaining, while giving up.

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    22 days ago

    I dream of this every day, let’s build micro grids of wind and solar that power our neighborhoods and at the same time can connect to each-other for power sharing in emergencies.

    Let’s organize our own logistics chains so we can resource share over space and time and start to imagine distribution based on need and efficiency rather than trade/profit margins.