• Susaga@ttrpg.network
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    9 months ago

    I don’t know for certain if he deserves it or not, but this guy will always be known as the guy accused of using a buttplug to cheat at chess. There’s no escaping it at this point.

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      9 months ago

      I honestly feel bad for him. He’s always gonna be associated with this meme. I don’t blame Magnus for not wanting to play with a known former cheater, but there’s a solid chance that Niemann’s win against him was legitimate.

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        9 months ago

        Niemann is a known cheater. He cheated tons of times. Whether he cheated against Magnus or not (I believe he did, but Magnus did make some mistakes in that game as well) doesn’t change how I feel about the accusations.

        Niemann earned the reputation of a cheater… by cheating… a lot. I don’t care if he was 16 during the confirmed incidents of cheating. That’s well old enough to understand what’s happening. And he’s really not that much older now. It wasn’t that long ago. He should live with the consequences of his actions.

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    9 months ago

    Lol, this story is still going? Didn’t this whole thing blow up like 8 months ago or something?

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        9 months ago

        There’s no need for something that complex.
        Someone with access to a chess engine watches the game and inputs the moves into the engine as they’re played. If there’s a critical move (only 1 or very few of the options are winning/don’t throw the game) they send a simple signal to let him know. That can be enough to give you an advantage at that level. If you really want, you could send a number between 1 and 6 to represent which piece the engine prefers to move, but it’s likely not necessary.

        That said, all the evidence he actually did anything like that is at best circumstantial (mostly statistical evidence supposedly showing how unlikely his performance was given his past performance and rating at the time, as well as known instances of past cheating by him - though the only confirmed ones were several years ago when he was still a kid and online rather than in person).

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    9 months ago

    Holy shit, this was a real thing?! So that’s where It’s Always Sunny in Philadelphia got the idea!

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    9 months ago

    Looking back at this. This whole thing was a wild ride. Magnus took being a sore loser to another level.

    Grade A asshole

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        9 months ago

        Perfect is a bit of a stretch. There was a tiny chance of Niemann winning that match, but smarter folk than I have analyzed the game and said that it was consistent with legitimate play

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        9 months ago

        If your dumb enough to believe the reddit meme about a vibrating butt plug being how he cheated, seriously reconsider your life

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          Reddit meme? You mean the explicit statement/accusation by Magnus Carlson himself on Twitter, and the youtube video I linked that shows exactly how its possible with little effort?

          The good people of the internet can’t do all the reading and video watching for you - Most of have lives, but can still be bothered to look into whether we should open our mouths with some dismissive bullshit. What’s your excuse?

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        9 months ago

        I don’t know anything about the chess drama, but it really doesn’t matter who you are, don’t publicly shame when you could do it privately.

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          9 months ago

          It’s kinda hard to privately resign from a match and refuse to play in a tournament because you think an opponent is cheating

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            9 months ago

            I mean people would know something’s up, but I was thinking silence would be a good option until some evidence could be produced

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          You’re misunderstanding/misrepresenting the historical/societal role of shame. Its not just a personal feeling to be felt, or more likely feigned, nor is it something one person is capable of imparting to another who is not already inclined towards it.

          One’s elders do not wait for friends and family to leave the room before calling out shamefull acts, nor would doing so serve any purpose.

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    9 months ago

    I lost all respect I had for Magnus Carlsen when he couldnt just accept his loss akd instead sent his hate brigade against Niemann

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      First of all, all he did was refuse to play the guy. He then said he can’t talk about it or else it’ll mean legal trouble. Second of all, there has been an investigation into Nieman that has shown he is a cheater in online play. He also admitted to cheating previously.

      So no, this isn’t “Magnus lost and couldn’t accept it”. It is “known cheater loses the entire tournament and gets downright bullied, till they reach the world champion, where they play a perfect game”.

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        9 months ago

        at this point if people dont know the actual story from both sides its safe to say theyre just trying to follow an edgy bandwagon so idk if your logic is gonna help them