• Denjin@feddit.uk
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    20
    arrow-down
    1
    ·
    11 hours ago

    When I was growing up in the 80s they said global warning would affect our children’s children so we should start doing something about it.

    Guess what, it’s happening to us, already. Why would I bring more people into it. At least I’ll be dead before it gets really really bad but statistically I’ll see things like the last Coral reefs dying and the amazon rain forest disappearing.

  • Lemmyoutofhere
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    31
    arrow-down
    1
    ·
    12 hours ago

    Why would I want to bring another person into this world hellscape?

    • Insekticus@aussie.zone
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      11
      ·
      9 hours ago

      For the oligarchs to use as slaves to make billions off of!

      Or to rape, kill, and eat.

      Unfortunately, we dont even get to choose which one.

  • lasta@piefed.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    53
    ·
    14 hours ago

    For anyone else wondering why 29-year-olds specifically:

    The letter is being sent to 29-year-olds because women are able to have their eggs frozen at that age without a medical certificate. Women will also be reminded that social security in France covers the cost of freezing eggs for women between 29 and 37.

    The article also does mention the arguments that short maternity leave, environmental concerns, and negative outlooks on the future in the country deters people from having children.

    So not quite as harsh as the “hurry up and reproduce!” message the title implies.

    • Insekticus@aussie.zone
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      4
      ·
      9 hours ago

      Knowing how society, government, and policy have evolved over the past few decades, if any woman gets her eggs frozen, the elites will just take ownership if said eggs once the artificial wombs are perfected… or once they get enough slave surrogates to do it in the shadows on some island somewhere.

    • captainlezbian@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      10
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      12 hours ago

      Ok that’s actually reasonable. “Hey you’re getting older, if you want kids now’s a good age to either start trying or freeze some eggs” is something I never would have thought was necessary until entering my 30s and learning multiple people older than me in my life absolutely did not understand that they were approaching the “now or never” age and well into the age where bad luck can take all the chances they have left.

      It’s weird hearing people in their mid 30s say they plan on having kids someday

      • SaveTheTuaHawk
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        3
        ·
        9 hours ago

        I had my first kid at 40. I wasn’t raising kids in poverty or expecting to saddle a huge education debt on them.

      • otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        6
        arrow-down
        1
        ·
        11 hours ago

        It’s weird hearing people say they plan on having kids someday

        FTFY.

        I mean, FFS. Have they no eyes, ears, or lungs? gestures at all this current reality 🥺

  • ivanvector@piefed.ca
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    32
    ·
    14 hours ago

    I hope everyone who gets one sends a letter back telling the government to get on with taxing the damn billionaires.

  • 1dalm@lemmings.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    31
    ·
    14 hours ago

    A drop in birth rates is generally seen as a sign of increasing prosperity in a population… Up to a point. After a certain line it’s a sign of decreasing financial confidence and insecurity.

  • Sanctus@anarchist.nexus
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    20
    ·
    14 hours ago

    Its always “have more children” and never “here is 1 million dollars to have a child comfortably”

    • 1dalm@lemmings.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      3
      ·
      9 hours ago

      It has nothing to do with money and everything to do with community.

      People aren’t having kids because communities have been hollowed out.

        • 1dalm@lemmings.world
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          1
          ·
          8 hours ago

          Making money… So that they can buy a tv so they can spend their last two hours of awake time alone watching tv.

          • Sanctus@anarchist.nexus
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            1
            ·
            8 hours ago

            Cause my community meet up is totally at 8:30 PM directly after I put my kids down. I get it, if you want it you gotta put in the elbow grease. But this was done purposefully and it worked wonders.

    • plyth@feddit.org
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      4
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      12 hours ago

      How would children be treated if they are only conceived for the money?

      How many parents would hand them a tablet and leave them to themselves?

      • greenbit@lemmy.zip
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        7
        ·
        11 hours ago

        If a country wants people to birth so much, it can cover the upbringing, no need to pay the parents.

  • Optional@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    8
    ·
    12 hours ago

    “Procreation is creating one more human who is going to pollute and consume. It is a secondary reason for me, but I have friends who are clear they do not want children because of that,” he added.

  • Ziggurat@jlai.lu
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    19
    ·
    14 hours ago

    While France isn’t as bad as the US

    • Make affordable “Family friendly” housing. It’s hard to live alone in Paris, let alone as a family of four

    • Spend money in education so we have decent public school, and can deal with bullies

    • The whole global warming and geopolitical tension make getting kids scary, the 2020’s looks like the bad scenario young millennials were talking about in the 00’s.

    • 1dalm@lemmings.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      2
      ·
      9 hours ago

      I think “invest in IRL social institutions and socially encourage and incentivise people to be positively involved in their IRL communities” and the babies will come soon enough.

      But, instead the constant “your miserable life is for work” message doesn’t really make people want to skiddley-poo.