I’ve confirmed this with multiple accounts now. If you promote the 2nd amendment, including training responsibly with others, your account will be autobanned within 60 seconds.

To be clear, my comments contained exactly zero calls to violence. They were simple comments stating every American has the right to arm themselves and that everyone should train responsibly, ideally with others who are more experienced.

I’ve had 4 or 5 accounts autobanned within a minute now. All immediately after posting pro 2nd amendment comments. These accounts were anywhere from 1 week to multiple months old. So they’re not brand new accounts that are being flagged for whatever reason.

Reddit is now complicit in the fascist takeover of our nation.

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    “We need guns in case of tyranny!”

    (Tyranny happens.)

    “You are now banned for discussing guns!”

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      That’s because guns do nothing against tyranny except increase the justification (see my other comment a few days ago abt defending myself against armed corrupt police while unarmed myself)

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          My previous comment: Exactly I’ve never needed a gun I think its purely marketing and social expectations causing Americans to default to “muh guns” when someone’s mentioned self defense. Like if ur up against guns js wear body armour at all times rather than trying to be john wick.

          Editing to add my other comment which adds why it acc worsens tyranny: I’ve been stabbed too. Ive never felt the need to carry a gun. I face a lot of risk anytime I leave my house esp rn acc due to political unrest essentially I still don’t feel the need for guns yet the government do feel the need for arming trained police (known for corruption and violence where I’m from) who I think are a lot more likely to kill me than someone w a knife. As I mentioned tho I still don’t feel the need to arm myself against those people infact doing so would worsen the situation as I’d be more of a threat and could be further used for the narrative justifying the arming of police in the first place

          Edit: if an unarmed person is shot by police even if its attempted to be covered up the people who were there will know what happened. if I try to shoot the police because im threatened and they shoot back that’s going to worsen things. I don’t see how its better to carry a gun in this situation

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    Lmao, so decades of child’s shooting up schools, 2a is a-ok!

    Resistance to ICE gestappo, 2a banned?

    Well it’s on brand for this country at least.

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      It’s Reddit. It’s a cesspool run by trash humans.

      So yes, you can talk about guns and the 2nd amendment all you want when children are being murdered in school, but if fascists control the government, you gotta stop that, because you’re now an “agitator”.

      Edit: Actually, to be fair, most Reddit users are good enough people to grasp that fascism has come to America and fascism is bad. So calling the site in general a cesspool isn’t necessarily accurate. The shitstains are mostly bots and a small percentage of trash humans. The real issue are the trash humans running the site and dictating the rules that have driven us all to Lemmy.

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        It’s Reddit. It’s a cesspool run by trash humans.

        Yeah, corporate advertisers.

        Can’t speak of violence guns or anything else, lest it upset the VERY kinds of people looking for that “Disney” sensibility the Mayor of Minneapolis refered to last night, after he got asked about dropping the F-bomb in response to the shooting yesterday.

        It’s squeeky-clean and “sanitized” for your protection, now that it had it’s IPO and went mainstream.

        Come on, what do we all expect? Everyone here is old enough to know how this all rolls.

        It’s all got to be puppies and daffodils and fairy tales that keep the shoppers feeling safe and spending.

        Capitalism 101: Keep the consumers warm and fuzzy.

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        The real issue are the trash humans running the site and dictating the rules that have driven us all to Lemmy.

        Well, I got bad news for you on that front, too.

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          I know. I’m not saying Lemmy is perfect. But the only censorship I’ve experienced was on .ml (surprise surprise) and I haven’t been banned, not even from an individual sub/instance.

          It’s got problems but it isn’t Reddit levels of trash.

          Lemmy allows me to support our Constitutional rights. That alone makes it better than Reddit.

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            The issue here is that there isn’t really a way to ban anyone. No matter how many times they vote or how many AI chat bots they use to keep their accounts active.

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    Funny how it’s been a thing for YEARS without autobanning. When it was “I need my guns to stand against tyranny if it shows up at my door”, there were no autobans. Now that tyranny is actually at the door, they autoban.

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    If you’re still using reddit then you are complicit in the takeover too.

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      I only continue to use Reddit to combat misinformation, defend our Constitution, and promote Lemmy.

      I’ve never given them a dime. I block all ads.

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        Your traffic is measured by them and used to increase their numbers when making ad sales. Regardless of whether you have given them any money and blocked all their ads, you still count as traffic to the site, and that is what they are selling to advertisers.

        So, yes, even though you don’t intentionally give them any money, the majority of the money they make is from the valuation placed on traffic to the site, which you continue contributing to.

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          I guess that begs the question, is spending the majority of your time on a generally censorship free site like Lemmy, but continuing to spend some time on the most popular site of its kind that does censor, in order to combat misinformation, defend our rights, and promote a better site morally wrong? Is it worth conbributing to their ad revenue? When you know the site is so popular it isn’t going anywhere anyway?

          Either way, this is a Lemmy sub about Reddit and you can’t really know everything that’s going on with Reddit unless you’re logged in and contributing in some way.

          Personally, I believe correcting misinformation and spreading awareness about our rights is worth continuing to login on a sporadic basis.

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            Well, something to consider is that engaging on Reddit isn’t even on the level of limited individual action like voting is. You’re having a cascading effect on the viability of the site by engaging with other people. It’s what makes the site function. You’re the product for advertisers in more ways than one.

            Besides, clearly you believe in the power of collective action making a difference, given you’re promoting firearms training with others. Same energy applies to withdrawing from the site.

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              It’s not always about the people you’re arguing with. It’s often about people who might be reading the comment chains, and can be influenced

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                Bingo.

                Myself, along with everyone else, have spent our lives being influenced by all sorts of things, both obvious and subliminal. I have absolutely read comments online over the course of my life, especially when I was younger, that helped make me more informed or forced me to challenge something I believed.

                I wouldn’t know half the stats I know regarding politics if it wasn’t for comments left by informed individuals online that led me elsewhere to confirm those stats.

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          I know the scale is massively tipped, but that doesn’t change that the majority of political knowledge I possess, including most of the actual hard data, was posted by informed individuals on Reddit, which I can usually find by organizing comments by “Best”.

          People read comments. People get influenced by those comments.

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        I’ve thought a out that. Would people appreciate it if I were to repost a bunch if things from reddit all the time? I don’t want to start spamming

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          Would people appreciate it if I were to repost a bunch if things from reddit all the time? I don’t want to start spamming

          They would if the content hasn’t been posted yet on lemmy.

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            I don’t feel sufficiently motivated to make a reddit account again, but if I did I’d focus on reposting from communities for which there isn’t an active equivalent on Lemmy yet. The long tail of niche interests is the thing that’s most missing right now

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          i personally don’t mind, but i think some communities have rules about not reposting from reddit

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    Far-right nuts have been screaming about that 2nd amendment you guys have for decades.

    Now that left-wingers are talking about it… it’s a problem.

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    Just lurk on reddit. Don’t contribute anything there. Leech like u/spez does & you’ll be happier.

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      Just leave reddit already, it doesn’t have anything of value.

      It’s the same thing as bitching about Facebook while still using it.

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        It stopped being helpful years ago, I no longer trust advice on there since It’s usually an ad or someone insulting the poster for not knowing the answer because they have a life outside of being on reddit 24/7

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        Only things I really miss not being able to post on reddit are the forums for magic the gathering, and Project Diablo 2.

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      When my accounts were permanently banned I spammed AI gibberish into all of my past comments. Salt the earth and deny them any benefit from your efforts.

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      Late reply, but like it or not, Reddit is still invaluable for me, even if it’s essentially a capitalist exploitation of its users.

      In short, its got loads more thriving communities and user engagement, altho I hope the FV can steadily make gains, there.

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    Why do you keep saying this without quoting what you posted?

    Repeat what you said if it’s so normal

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      Ok.

      Figured others had experienced the same thing and wanted to chip in their experiences or, if they cared enough, could test it out on their own.

      Either way, the comment was auto-deleted by Reddit so I’m just paraphrasing anyway.

      I stated that everyone should exercise their 2A right and arm themselves. And if they are already experienced with firearms they should help others who are interested arm themselves and help them train. I also pointed out that, in this political climate, if they want to chat with friends/family about purchasing firearms, they may want to use an end-to-end encrypted messaging app.

      That’s it. That was the content of my comment. None of that is questionable. None of that breaks Reddit site wide rules. None of it is a call to violence. And, not that it matters on a privately owned platform, but all of that is supported by our Constitution.

      Also, why did you say

      Why do you keep saying this

      This is the first post I’ve ever made about this. I’ve never even made a comment on Lemmy about this.

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          Dude.

          You’re a moderator.

          Learn how to read.

          When Reddit bans you for a comment they DELETE THE COMMENT.

          I’ve already, in multiple responses to others on this post, tried to detail what was in the comment as closely as I could.

          You sound like you want me to verbatim recreate a comment I posted that was deleted when you probably are well aware that Reddit deletes the comment.

          Is this a mod power trip?

          Screen grabbed.

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            If it were a mod power trip, your post or comment would be deleted lol

            “As closely as I could” yet you seem unable to restate the content any better than “I supported the second amendment”.

            If the pro-2A comments are automatically deleted, why are there subreddits full of them?

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              “As closely as I could” yet you seem unable to restate the content any better than “I supported the second amendment”.

              Again, you prove you are a mod who doesn’t read comments.

              Read my comments again. I responded to TWO people with a close approximation of the contents of my comment. In one I even stated “that’s actually pretty damn close”.

              So do your mod due diligence and expand the comments and hit CTRL+F and do a search for “that’s actually pretty damn close” to view the comment where I tried to recreate the comment as closely as I could. I just didn’t do it in any of my comments to you because I don’t like you and I’m not repeating myself for you.

              See, this is how I know in your other comment to me that you tested my theory and found it false that you didn’t actually test my theory. Because you’ve made it clear you haven’t read my other comments where I detail the contents of my Reddit comment that got me auto-banned. So there’s no way you could know the key words that all have to be in the comment to receive the auto-ban.

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                You keep yelling the same thing over and over again even though I’ve addressed it… which is kinda funny since you’re saying I didn’t read your comments

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    If you’re not rotating your IP every time then you’re getting hit for ban evasion triggered by keyword detection or reports

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        Yeah. Phones are another thing altogether. I haven’t used Reddit mobile for years because of this. At least not logging in to an account anyway. Which doesn’t bother me much. I really only use Reddit on PC and I pointed out in another comment that all I do is run Reddit in a private browser window, then once I’m banned, I reset the whole browser, open up a new private window and create a new account. I can go months with a new account like that before being banned based on a comment. So it works. I’m assuming they use cookies to track and the combination of using a private browser window and resetting the browser is enough to bypass their bullshit.

        But on phones I think they capture some kind of identifying value for the phone itself, like a MAC address, and then that device is toast on Reddit going forward.

        I don’t pretend to have answers for everything, I just know what’s been working for a number of years for me.

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      I don’t rotate the IP. Generally speaking, these accounts can go for months, seasons, before being autobanned when I finally say fuck it and post a pro 2A comment or insult the fuck out of a MAGA dipshit. They aren’t bans based on reports because they happen instantly. So I’m assuming they have bots set up looking for keywords or a certain threshold of keywords.

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        My point is simply that you’re being fingerprinted and re-banned, rather than these accounts triggering some independent “no 2fa comments” rule and getting individually banned. Whatever the trigger is, the system is recognizing you as an already banned user and re-banning you as soon as you cross their radar

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        Na they are just pretty good at catching ban evasion which you are trying to do. I was also unsuccessful; just take the L and move on chief.

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    I’m glad they permabanned me now. I wouldn’t have left if they didn’t and being permabanned for what they did for, plus seeing stuff like this, plus knowing Maxwell is moderating on the network again, it’s a good thing.

    Thanks Reddit and fuck you Spez.

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      I only run Reddit in a private browsing window. When they permaban me I reset the browser and close it, open up a new private window, create a new Reddit account with a throwaway email and I’m back in and don’t get permabanned again until I promote our Constitutional rights or tell a Trump supporter their mother shouldn’t have carried to term and get reported for hurting their feelings.

      So I’m assuming they catch account hoppers via cookies.

      I even have a browser script that auto-adds all my subs back so I don’t lose all my subs. There’s some nuance to that though as if the script auto-adds too many subs too quickly, you’ll get flagged and auto-banned. So I have to set the script to only add one sub every 5000ms and then leave that tab alone while it adds all my subs. I only care about the subs at all because Lemmy doesn’t have all the really specific subs I find myself sometimes needing to post on for answers to specific shit.

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        Yeah nah they can fuck off. They get no more traffic from me.

        Your workaround is pretty cool though and if it works for you, yeah.

        Mine was a strong account as well, I think I had around 150k karma and I’d actively be involved in a lot of subs.

        I’d rather stay here now and help build this.

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          My first account was 13 years old with 250k comment karma and was permabanned without warning for saying “It’s OK to punch a Nazi.”

          Yeah, focus your time on helping Lemmy grow.

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            Yeah see there you go. That’s a frame and put on the wall statement.

            Mine was for agreeing with a Muslim woman on the Fauxmoi sub that the reason the bloke who disarmed that Bondi shooter and didn’t kill him afterward was that he’s a peaceful Muslim. That was my thought when I saw it, most Muslims I’ve met are exceptionally peaceful people. I said ‘I thought the same…thanks for your insight.’

            That got a permaban. I appealed it and it failed. I’m not the only one I think, I’m certain there were a few others as well. So that’s inciting violence.

            My interpretation is that the narrative of Islam or Muslims possibly being peaceful in nature isn’t one they want put out there. It doesn’t surprise me, as I said Maxwell is back on the site so it’s not hard to work out what’s happening.

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              I’ve noticed in the last year or so that more and more usernames on Reddit are the auto-generated ones you can opt to use when creating a new account. They all have the same general format. And it’s not like they’re all bots. For the most part they leave comments that are clearly not bot comments. My assumption is that so many people are being banned, so regularly, that when they come back with new profiles they’re just going with the auto-generated usernames because they know they’re just gonna get banned again, so why bother being creative?

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            I got that much karma election year just sharing information everywhere. Really enjoyed that account was making friends and shit. What they do is they send bots or something once they notice you are popular to report all of your posts. So that gets you suspended and then you appeal. Takes 24 hours to get it looked at and approved… then they send the bots right back at you immediately to report your old posts. Over and over and over and over effectively banning you without banning you.

            That’s what they do to people that follow the rules.

            Fuck Reddit.

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        I even have a browser script that auto-adds all my subs back so I don’t lose all my subs. There’s some nuance to that though as if the script auto-adds too many subs too quickly, you’ll get flagged and auto-banned. So I have to set the script to only add one sub every 5000ms and then leave that tab alone while it adds all my subs. I only care about the subs at all because Lemmy doesn’t have all the really specific subs I find myself sometimes needing to post on for answers to specific shit.

        I am very interested in this. Would you mind sharing it anywhere?

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          Yeah, I’ll share it right here. It’s just a script you copy/paste into your browser’s console. Basically, you’re on a page that lists all your subs with a “join” button next to them. The script tells the browser to click the “join” button then move to the next one and click “join”, so on and so forth.

          • Visit https://old.reddit.com/subreddits/ using your old account

          • Copy link address of “multireddit of your subscriptions” you can see on the right side near the top.

          It will give you a link address like this: https://old.reddit.com/r/[subreddit1+subreddit2...+subredditN]

          • Visit that link using your new account.

          • Open the console in your browser by pressing F12 and then click the console tab

          • Paste the code below and press enter (everything I put between the =====)

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          setTimeout(‘sub()’, 5000);

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          Like I said, it can take a while if you have a lot of subs because of that 5000ms delay between each “click” to prevent Reddit from detecting you’re adding too many subs too quickly. So just leave that tab alone for a while. Then, make sure you refresh that tab when done, because sometimes there will be a few subs that the script didn’t work on for some reason and I just have to find them in the list and manually click the “join” button. Worked fine with every sub on the new account I created yesterday though.

          So when I’m banned I just copy that big “multireddit of your subscriptions” link and paste it into a notepad window temporarily. Then I reset my browser, open it back up and open a private browsing tab, create a new Reddit account, and continue following the steps above. I also have a browser (Brave) set aside specifically for Reddit. That way I can reset my browser and not really care about clearing settings for other sites.

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        how are you making throwaway emails? I found that a pita when I was trying to make an account (after they IP banned me or whatever) so I could access a few specific communities for help

        reddit seemed to insta shadowban my account if I used any of those temp email generators, and creating an actual email on a mainstream service takes annoyingly long

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    Bastard and his bots will always banhammer anyone even remotely talking about committing violence. He doesn’t like progressives contaminating his LLM farming data to sell for.

    So fuck you spez.