Look, Noam isn’t wearing his glasses, he might think he’s talking to Anthony Bourdain
The two guys calling you a “Tankie” in the comments.
My man is just manufacturing up some consent
What’s the point of having a world class child prostitution ring if you can’t use it smooze with some politicians from time to time. They are all playing the same game, and we aren’t in it.
EDIT : Thank you for your comments. Please don’t send me more replies, as everything that needs to be said has been said, and is now starting to tread the thin line between anti-zionism and anti-sematism.
I still don’t get how he ended up in that position.
No, like seriously. Practically.
He’s a fucking left wing linguistics professor. Even if he’s a giant pedo, how does he afford to get a ticket to go to epstein island? If he can’t afford it, why does epstein give him a free ride? He’s on the opposite side to chomsky.
did the book sales for manufacturing consent get him that fucking rich?
Epstein was a major bundler and influencer in the liberal establishment, specifically within the US East Coast and the EU West Coast regions. Chompsky was also in this circle of influential political and media figures. Its not crazy that they’d run into each other any more than Epstein hobnobbing with any other Ivy League professors or national media figures or British Royals.
did the book sales for manufacturing consent get him that fucking rich?
More that knowing a guy like Epstein is what gets you regularly syndicated in news columns and invited as a guest onto TV shows. You could say the same about Larry Summers or Steven Pinker.
Very good question indeed. Sadly, it doesn’t help that Chomsky keeps avoiding answering this and other related questions.
As someone so vocal about serious crimes going unpunished, I’d imagine he’d just openly say what’s going on. If he’s so adamant about staying silent, it only adds more doubt and further questions.
I think Chomsky is still nonverbal from his 2023 stroke.
how does he afford to get a ticket to go to epstein island?
Epstein was a Mossad agent offering “honey pots” for kompromat and rule over the US/west. “You’re a super interesting guy. I’m having a supermodel orgy in Bahamas with lots of other famous people. I can fly by and pick you up”… you’re not doing anything wrong by saying yes.
His net worth is <$2M.
At that point in his career, Chomsky was getting invited everywhere because he was branded “the top intellectual in the world”.
People would see him speak and not understand a damned word he said.
People would see him speak and not understand a damned word he said.
It’s not like Chomsky understood anything he was saying outside of linguistics.
$2m is nothing to someone like Epstein. The private jet they’re flying in cost $61m, for example
Mossad leverage against non Zionist jewish activist.
Rich and powerful people like Epstein like to collect influence and status and part of that status is collecting novelty. This is something money can’t directly buy and is exclusive so they need it like the parasites they are. Part of Epstein’s appeal to these ghouls was that not only would he make you rich and get you girls but he himself was “smart” end erudite and surrounded himself with the “best and brightest.” This is why he consorted with people like Hawking and Chomsky; he collected their reputations in his bag and then could tell other ghouls hey look come to the island, you can meet the most famous physicist of all time and, maybe, bang some young girls.
Hawkins?
Not the cheezy guy!
Sorry, Stephen Hawking https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/jan/05/prince-andrew-clinton-hawking-what-do-the-epstein-documents-say-about-key-people
To be fair to Hawking (who was a d-bag), there isn’t evidence that he went to the Island but he did meet with Epstein likely because Epstein sought out smart people to consort with
I do not care to delve into the personal life of all scientists, particularly physicists, who rarely opine on human nature. Hawking’s contributions to astrophysics and quantum physics are unrelated to his associations with shitty humans. In that arena, however, I do prefer Leonard Susskind over Hawking, in that Hawking’s fucking ego would not let him consider other positions related to certain topics. (In short, yes, he was a douche bag).
There’s an excellent book by Susskind called the Black Hole Wars about how he was right and Hawking was a dick when it came to how black holes consume objects and the data therein. Hawking eventually conceded to Susskind reluctantly after a few decades.
I think they meant Minsky.
Minsky?
He meant Steven Hawking.
He meant Steven Hawking.
If you look at his emails with Epstein, it’s literally Epstein asking him about his academic work, Epstein toying with various little theories and asking Chomsky about them, etc. All above board so far. Him being on the plane is not great, but it doesn’t necessarily mean he’s a pedo. It opens up that possibility, but there is not proof of him doing anything wrong. Yet. I really hope he didn’t do anything wrong, but it’s obviously a possibility.
No matter what you think about Chomsky, he’s an extremely important intellectual figure and is associated with the left. Him going down would be bad for all of us - so I hope he’s not a bastard.
It opens up that possibility, but there is not proof of him doing anything wrong.
Spending time and discussing politics with a convicted sex trafficker as well as getting on his “Lolita express” is already wrong enough in my opinion.
We have the benefit of hindsight. It is possible Chomsky didn’t know about that. Possible. Epstein knew lots of people - only some of them went to the island and not all of those went to assault kids.
It’s correct to be suspicious. Even very suspicious. It is not correct to draw definite conclusions without more information. The information that we have does not implicate him in illegal stuff, so far.
Epstein was convicted of procurement of minors to engage in prostitution in 2008, Chomsky met with him in 2015. That’s enough hindsight for Chomsky as well if you ask me.
We need a way to ban bots.
I highly recommend you read On Chomsky by Roderic Day. Chomsky’s a bastard and the left would be better without him, as he ultimately postures his “leftism” in manners that uphold the US Empire through cynically demonizing any real alternatives.
Thanks for the recommendation, will take a look at it. What I’ve read of Chomsky so far is often a critique of (mostly, but not exclusively) US Imperialism, so I’m curious what this person is arguing
His critique of US imperialism is as I said, done in a way that downplays any alternative in real life and redirects radicals towards cynicism and nihilism. His point can be summed up as “The US Empire is evil, but everyone else is worse, so we have to support it.”
I will read it. Regardless, though, he is associated with the left and him going down for this would be bad PR for the left broadly, which sucks - that’s my only point other than we don’t know he’s done anything untoward here.
In my view, it is better to tear down the “left” phrasemongers that attack socialism in action while waxxing poetic about “pure” and “ideal” socialism, and uphold actually good practicians and theorists over them.
True - I totally agree.
He isn’t really on the opposite side of Chomsky. Chomsky is very much allowed as vocal “opposition” because his conclusions all lie in cynicism towards the idea that there are meaningful alternatives to the status quo. He redirects radicalism toward doomerism and away from meaningful practice.
It got him celebrity. That opens doors in ways money doesn’t.
Is he involved with a charity? Epstein was filthy rich, I’ll bet he was constantly getting hit up for money. That explains Clinton and Gate’s presence
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Chomsky is a Zionist which publicly supports the genocidal Apartheid and is anti BDS.
Most of Chomsky’s criticism is correct but coincidentally applies to Chcomsky himself.
Sure, because in 2025 everyone is either a Zionist or an anti-semite. So cool on the interweb.
Indeed everyone who is anti Zionist is an anti Semite. Great analysis.
Where did you pick up that Chomsky would be a Zionist? He’s actively working against the Apartheid Regime in multiple of his books
He is anti BDS and supports the “right of Israel to exist”. That’s the definition of Zionism.
Like a true Liberal Zionist he does minor criticism but refuses to acknowledge that Israel shouldn’t exist.
Zionism is to argue “the people of the jewish faith and the state of Israel are the same thing”, which he very much wasn’t a fan of.
And the state of Israel has a right to exist, it just shouldn’t get special treatment and a different rulebook than anyone else.
And the state of Israel has a right to exist
Why should a genocidal European settler-colonial state have a right to exist in West Asia?
States don’t have a right to exist in general, so that’s special treatment already
Zionism is to argue that Jews deserve an ethnostate called Israel and it is based on Jewish surpremacism.
Israel has no right to exist and should not exist.
The state of Israel has no right to exist, as it is a genocidal settler colony on stolen land. Palestine should have its original land returned.
refuses to acknowledge that Israel shouldn’t exist.
Whatever.
“Nazi Germany has its faults but it has a right to exist” - Noam Chomsky.
Ok, Gen X.
After learning how integral Epstein was to the infiltration of America’s elite, it would make sense that Mossad also pushed their thought into left wing space too with agents like Chomsky. They position themselves with two big players, one in business and finance and the other in academia (with grants and money as incentive).
We are seeing years of coordinated effort to undermine and control America and Europe. The UK is likely in the same place but less obvious because they have nothing close to America’s ability to project force in places like Iran.
Zionism is a plague. Israel is ruining the world
Israel doesn’t control the US or Europe. The US Empire, with Europe as its vassals, support Israel because it secures their imperialist interests in the region. There’s a degree of counter-influence and lobbying done by Israel, but Israel isn’t the one pulling the strings, the US is.
We are seeing years of coordinated effort to undermine and control America and Europe.
This isn’t (only) some nefarious Israeli plot. Capitalist states are oligarchies, and the US is the imperial hegemon. The tail isn’t wagging the dog, and the US is largely undermining it’s legitimacy itself. Israel is the US’ unsinkable aircraft carrier in West Asia, and were there not an Israel, the US would have to invent an Israel. This is business as usual.
The article of the first link really is about aa uncritical and non-nuanced as it gets. Thanks for sharing anyway, there are still some interesting facts to pull from it.
Regardless of the article’s nuance or criticality, Foreign Policy is a major mouthpiece of the US military-industrial complex.
Highly recommend On Chomsky by Roderic Day for anyone that idolizes this guy or thinks him a reputable voice for the left.
Not idolizing anyone has saved me so much grief. I have been upset many times (I once went to see Bill Cosby live), but never heartbroken.
That’s a good attitude to have. I certainly have historical and current figures I respect and look up to, though, and would be quite upset if I found out they were as bad as Chomsky. Thankfully I never had a Zizek phase.
Chomsky: “The collapse of USSR was victory for the working class”
The “working class” he meant:
one thing that I think all lefties can agree on, from Social democrats, Anarchists to “Tankies” The fall of the soviet union was a horrible event for the workers of the former union, shock therapy was the worst possible method one could think of to transition the former communist (socialist if you so dare to be pedantic) economy into a capitalist economy
On the bright side, they both agreed that Beria was a lovely lad.
I had read the famous adress booklet of Epstein and Chomsky’s name wasn’t in there. But then he’s on the plane. No idea what relationship they had. Any statement from Chomsky?
Any statement from Chomsky?
He’s been pretty dodgy about his association. He responded to a question about it in this interview, which pretty much amounted to “He served his sentence, which makes him just like anyone else,” and then did some whataboutism…
When asked about his relationship with Epstein, Mr. Chomsky replied in an email: “First response is that it is none of your business. Or anyone’s. Second is that I knew him and we met occasionally.”
In March 2015, Epstein scheduled a gathering with Mr. Chomsky and Harvard University professor Martin Nowak and other academics, according to the documents. Mr. Chomsky said they had several meetings at Mr. Nowak’s research institute to discuss neuroscience and other topics.
Two months later, Epstein planned to fly with Mr. Chomsky and his wife to have dinner with them and movie director Woody Allen and his wife, Soon-Yi Previn, the documents show. “If there was a flight, which I doubt, it would have been from Boston to New York, 30 minutes,” Mr. Chomsky said. “I’m unaware of the principle that requires that I inform you about an evening spent with a great artist.”
Epstein also had moved $270,000 for Chomsky, which isn’t a good look.
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Chomsky is 97 and had a stroke
Bruh isn’t Chomsky like… nonverbal?
oh that’s good, i won’t have to listen to him any more. bah dum tiss
