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      Shitty patriot country music has always been a thing and there are still tons of Outlaw country artists right now. This is literally just like those “rap in the 90s vs rap today” memes that ignore the fact that trap has been a thing since the 90s and old school hip hop is having a Renaissance right now

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          Pretty much all of Griselda and the dozen or so artists under their umbrella. Billy Woods & the rest of the Backwoodz Studios group are incredibly boom-bap inspired, not to mention all the “lofi” artists rn who are pretty much just old school rap. Turn off the radio and stop listening to algorithm-created Playlists and you’ll realize that there are still active artists in pretty much any subgenre of music you can think of

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            Also there aren’t only American artists, listen to artists from different countries and you’ll find a lot of great stuff, some of them even rap in English. I’m biased towards the French scene myself but there’s loads.

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              That’s true. French hip hop in general is really good, Gasoline’s album A Journey into Abstract Hip-Hop is one of my favorite instrumental albums of all time

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          I too am curious about this. I still have some old school hip hop that I listen to. Living Legends and their songs “Never Falling Down” and “Moving at the Speed of Life”.

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            From my other comment

            Pretty much all of Griselda and the dozen or so artists under their umbrella. Billy Woods & the rest of the Backwoodz Studios group are incredibly boom-bap inspired, not to mention all the “lofi” artists rn who are pretty much just old school rap. Turn off the radio and stop listening to algorithm-created Playlists and you’ll realize that there are still active artists in pretty much any subgenre of music you can think of

            This is also ignoring The Alchemist and all of the artists he works with, who’s basically doing what El-P did in the early 2000s

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          Check out NAS’s Kings Disease 3(my fav). The man is 50+ still putting it down. He even got Lauryn Hill on a track, smh. Dropped another album yesterday and has another one coming soon next year. Crazy

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          I’m going to see Wu Tang and Nas in a couple of weeks. Until they all die off, I’ve still got hope.

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            The good stuff is still out there. You just have to know where to find it. Commercial radio and things like that are driven by what the younger generation want to hear, which is fine for them but it’s just not my thing. Im into rap that has substance and lyrical content

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            Yeah, see my other comments. Plenty of new artists in the past couple years have come up with a old school/classic hip hop sound

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      Heard a lot of this growing up like Seeger, Peter Paul and Mary, Joan Baez, but also Canadians like Lightfoot and Stan Rogers. Lately I’ve enjoyed some of the IWWs compilations of workers’ songs, Utah Philips etc. Phil Ochs is up there too.

      My mother’s from an assimilated Mennonite background and it was one of the non-Christian genres that was permissible to her parents, because of the pacifist and civil rights sentiments in a lot of that music at the time. Also it lacked the sex and drugs themes which rock had. “I Aint Marching Anymore” and “Where have all the flowers gone?” I remember hearing quite often.

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        That’s a solid fucking set list, I Aint Marchin Anymore and Utah Phillips are especially bangers.

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        Nowadays, ironically some of the best Americana music comes out of Sweden by First Aid Kit.

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    Twenty hours in and it’s up to me to remind people that Dolly Parton is the full package?

    • She’s got tunes, OK ‘I Will Always Love You’ is a bit cloying but the rumour is that she also wrote Jolene the same day
    • She supports other women. When porn star Julia Parton was around and telling people that she was Dolly’s cousin, Dolly’s public response was something like, ‘She ain’t my cousin but I can’t condemn what she does… it’s not like I ever tried to hide my breasts. Good luck to her.’
    • She produced Buffy The Vampire Slayer through her production company Sanddollar. She kept a low profile publicly but behind the scenes was very supportive of the show because it provided good role models for young women.
    • She funds the Dolly Parton Imagination library which mails free books to kids under five.
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      It shocked me the first time I met a real anti-Semite, in real life, in Tennessee. I’ve worked in a lot of places all over the world and I’ve seen plenty of racism. No one else topped that guy in Tennessee. Other places racism was mostly contained to ‘they stay over there and we stay over here.’ Tons of problems but living together but apart was possible. That doesn’t speak to every experience obviously. That old guy in Tennessee wanted another Holocaust, plain and simple. Anywhere else he’d get the shit kicked out of him, there it was tolerated.

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        Had someone try to sell me on the merits of the Ku Klux Klan while working at a factory in Tennessee, I was a staunch Libertarian at the time so i guess he thought i might bite, he told me how they helped the community out and kept people safe… the guy was dead fucking serious, and when I asked him about them being racist he just changed the subject… Still feels like a fever dream…

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          What happened next? Was he mocking you or telling a joke that he thought you would enjoy?

          What a strange encounter

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            I suspect the NZ bloke was racist and immediately linked all Southern Americans with racism, so felt comfortable opening up.

            Ngl as a non-american if I met a dude in a bar and he’s was from ‘the south’ especially Texas or Florida I would be sitting there expecting some kind of anti-‘woke’, anti-minority, anti-women, anti-brown comment eventually. At least until I had sussed him out for a bit

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            Can confirm. I’m a 6’4 big bearded mountain looking fucker in the Bible belt, and people REGULARLY think “he agrees with me about this painfully mundane thing so surely he agrees with me that trans people need to shut up and dress appropriately (or whatever)” They’ll often be saying the quiet part to me out loud within 5 minutes of shooting the bull with a total stranger.

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        I drove through Alabama once. That was enough. What a shit stain state? Experience the racism there, even if sort of second hand, was surreal. Sucks I know some people that were forced to move there.

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    I unfortunately see a lot of white guy with a heavy (and fake) country accent does a “redneck” version of a popular rap or hip hop track and seeing other white people say “Now that’s how it should be done!”

    Modern “country” is a plague and I hate it. Its the only genre I can’t listen to.

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      I guess that’s just the next evolution. Old country was basically gospel that wasn’t about religion. Country in the 80s and 90s was basically old rock but about cowboys, trucks, beer and being cheated on. I suppose by now you have to transition to the kind of music that was the in thing in the 90s to keep up with being the appropriate number of decades behind.

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    Is almost the same thing with Brazilian sertanejo. Was once about the bucolic reality in the rural side of the country, now is about bragging about being rich, going to pointless parties and drinking a lot of alcoholic drinks, f-cking everyone…

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      And listened to by the same people who complain about rap music doing the same thing (in their eyes, anyway).

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    Plenty of good modern country music out there, you just have to look for it. Tyler Childers and Colter Wall are some famous ones that spring to mind, but there’s many others.

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        I’m guessing you meant Corb? If so, he has the odd song, like The Truck got Stuck, that are more mass appeal. But he has so many amazing songs

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          Lol yes. He’s a country guy who still sees the medium as a storytelling tradition. Really appreciate it.

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      I really love “Sarah Shook and The Disarmers” as well. They actually go by River Shook now I think, but the band still uses their dead name.

      A bit more on the folk side than country, but “Nick Shoulders and The Okay Crawdads” is one of my absolute favorite bands these days. They just put out a new album too and I can’t recommend it enough.

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        Meh. Depends on band/genre. There’s Green Day is Metallica’s kill em all radio for some reason. I love both bands, but they’re not really related.

        There’s static-x and Korn in megadeth’s radio.

        If you go to cannibal corpse’s radio, out of 2.5 hrs of music/40-50ish songs, you’ll see 6 songs by cattle decapitation, 4 of which from the same album. For a genre with hundreds of bands, that’s piss poor variety. And ofc bunch of other bands in there there aren’t death metal such as slayer or venom.

        Sorry, end of rant.

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    I wanted to do a “to be fair here, Cash had songs with stupid lyrics, too”, but all I can think of is “Ring of fire” and that one is just a harmless metaphor about love.

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      I’d argue that Ring of Fire is a metaphor about forbidden love that you know is damning you but the feelings are too powerful to resist.

      Rather than a harmless metaphor, I find it an incredibly powerful metaphor about the pain and suffering caused by helplessly loving the “wrong” person.

      Plus, there’s an opportunity to make STD jokes.

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      I don’t think modern country even uses metaphors anymore. Before anyone comes at me, I’m well awair that there’s some fantactic country writers out there.

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        That’s because modern country is squarely focused on (far) right leaning people and they are utterly deaf, dumb and blind to any sort of metaphor, sarcasm and subtlety.

        It’s why these pricks go nuts for songs like Killing in the Name, not realizing it’s a song that explicitly hates on them saying stuff like “some of those who work forces, are the same that BURN CROSSES”.

        They only see and hear that title and have no fucking clue what it and the rest of the song is actually about.

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            Way back when Nirvana, Tool, RATM and all the great early 90’s bands were coming up, there was another.

            A dingy Swedish band named Clawfinger.

            They had a debut, self released album named Deaf Dumb Blind and it’s most well known song was named Nigger.

            The song sprung outrage with the conservative right in the US, because back then they pretended they were against racism and the use of that word.

            Clawfinger was similar in lyrical meaning with Rage Against the Machine, most of their songs were protest songs.

            These are the lyrics.

            (guess I’ll link it as I can’t find how to do spoiler tags …)

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              Rember when Cobain wrote “rape me” becuase he had to hit people in the head with the message because the song “polly” went right over it?

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    I loved ‘a boy named Sue’ but it was ‘the Man comes around’ that sold me. Heard it first during the OP of “Day of the Dead” remake, and there is no other song that comes close to fitting with this opening

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    I think Orville Peck might be my gateway drug into country. I don’t imagine there’s too many gay cowboys out there, but surely there’s other stuff I’ll like.

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    I highly recommend Buck Meek.

    He’s the guitarist for Big Thief but his solo albums are some of the best country I’ve heard in a long time. And free from the toxicity of modern country (as far as I can tell)

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      Holy shit Buck Meek and Big Thief are so good. Definitely more on the indie folk side of country but I’d be lying if I said Dragon New Warm Mountain wasn’t my favorite album of last year