cross-posted from: https://feddit.de/post/3190681

You’ve seen Louis’s rant about how difficult it is to cancel gym memberships. But I think he’s mad at the wrong thing here, or at least not at the main wrong thing.

The worse issues, as I see them, are:

The main issues are:

  1. Why does a gym require membership/subscription in the first place? Ok sure, fixed expenses and stuff, but that’s the case of every business ever, and my grocery store doesn’t require me to sign up for membership to buy bread.

Where I live (Europe), gyms, swimming pools and other such establishments are walk-in. You come, pay an entry fee and leave whenever. Memberships and tickets for multiple entries are offered, but it’s just to save money if you want it and are a regular anyway. So there’s a steep discount coming with those. Businesses need go actually earn your membership money.

I kept seeing people joking about gym memberships in US TV shows and comedies, and just had to shake my head.

Not that people aren’t trying to bring this subscription/membership rot here. One large local gym/wellness chain now requires membership and a phone app to enter. The membership itself is free (presumably you pay with your data in some way) and there are still just single entrance fees, but fuck that.

  1. I’d say it’s good manners to accept cancellation of a contract by the same method as the sign-up. But in absence of good manners by businesses, laws should exist to enforce exactly this.

As far as I know, Europe-wide laws require cancellation of contracts to be easily available, at least using the same way as you can sign up.

So if the laws don’t demand this, and businesses don’t respect this simplest, basic logic, then there’s something fundamentally more wrong than just “making it difficult to cancel”.

And overall, it also just shows how far can things get when subscriptions are just accepted as normal thing. It always gets worse and worse, unless the law intervenes (if it does). That’s why it’s pretty much best to avoid subscription services and memberships whenever there’s an alternative available. Sure, exceptions apply, but always think what the situation with your service will be in 10 years.

  • partial_accumen@lemmy.world
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    10 months ago

    Why does a gym require membership/subscription in the first place?

    Because its a fantastic source of revenue for the gym where they have lots of people paying for classes and equipment they don’t use.

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      10 months ago

      I don’t disagree, but I hate having to jump through these hoops when I absolutely shouldn’t have to. A burner bank account or credit card is nice for sure, but it shouldn’t be mandatory to avoid hours of headaches.

    • reluctantpornaccount@reddthat.com
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      10 months ago

      Absolutely. I just cancelled a membership to “The Y” because I hadn’t been in months. I said as much in the cancellation form. Then, I get an email with a form that says fill out the form (all info I filled out already), and also you have to give us a full 30 days notice to cancel, meaning we get another month of money.

      So I replied that I had already canceled the card(virtual card) and I was being polite by canceling, and that I’m not doing any extra work, and wow look at that, my account was canceled.

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          10 months ago

          I know, but choices in my area are really lacking. Either a very expensive $100+ a month gym with a pool, or two religious options with pools. I just recently found out about a pool about 10 minutes away from me that is a better option though.

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    10 months ago

    I think Louis brought it up in his video that he hated that didn’t he? I thought it was just his workaround in a shitty system that he was sticking a middle finger up to

    I love the European systems for so many things. I plan to move back some day.

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    17 days ago

    Back in 2020 I quit the gym and bought a standalone pull-up bar, dip station combo and put it in the garage. Plus some of those giant thick workout rubber bands. Don’t really need anything else to do all the movements I was doing at the gym