• PhilipTheBucket@quokk.auEnglish
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    2 days ago

    Cunningham, who said that he’d skimmed the op-ed, testified that he “didn’t see anything in the op-ed that suggested she’d committed a crime.”

    “I did contact our legal counsel to make sure that we’re on solid legal ground.”

    I can help you with that one sir

    • outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
      11·
      2 days ago

      Note: the first question the fed asked was ‘is this legal’ not ‘is this completely shitfuckedbananas evil nonsense’. It just wants to cover its own ass.

      • PhilipTheBucket@quokk.auEnglish
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        2 days ago

        It’s also not legal. I don’t really know the details, I feel like usually in practice in the US it’s a civil penalty instead of criminal charges for the cops, but it is certainly illegal to arrest people for things that aren’t crimes, even if all your friends are doing it too.

        • outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
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          2 days ago

          I would argue it’s not illegal in practice, especially when it’s on orders, but thats more an argument about what laws are than what the rules as written say

          • PhilipTheBucket@quokk.auEnglish
            4·
            2 days ago

            Yeah. We basically made all of this up. It’s just down to what the traditions are, what judges have habits of ruling on, how the police and courthouse staff and attorneys are all in the habit of listening to people and conducting themselves and what they do and don’t enforce.

            We can have Jim Crow, or Nuremberg, or Daniel Ellsberg getting found not guilty for what the White House said was basically high treason. Or we can have the French Revolution. We can have whatever we want. It’s all just kind of how people set up their habits, at the end of the day. I’m just saying that if you look it up in the law books, and follow the details, it’s illegal.

            • outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
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              2 days ago

              And the law botherers never play rules-as-written; it’s always calvinball contrivances. There’s no consistency but ‘the strong will crush the weak’.

              • PhilipTheBucket@quokk.auEnglish
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                2 days ago

                Not really dude. That’s why I brought up things like Dan Ellsberg. That’s why Derek Chauvin is in prison right now.

                That thinking is true sometimes. Not always.

                • outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
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                  2 days ago

                  Took a lot of public outrage to make those happen.

                  In the chauvin case, i think several of the people who organized protests were suicided or car bombed, but i might be mixing up my famous cops.