• teppa@piefed.ca
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    3 days ago

    Carney is already removing their ability to block projects if you haven’t read the news.

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          2 days ago

          I feel Conservative generally means small government and limited government control with more of a free market approach, would a conservative support authoritarianism?

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            Look up the history of conservativism. They’ve always supported and will always support authoritarianism; the only difference is whether they want a monarchy, fascism or corporate feudalism.

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    2 days ago

    Why? No other countries bring in their groups.

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    Meh. I gotta admit, I’m pretty numb / antagonistic to this sort of thing at this point. In my view, race-based politics / privileges are antithetical to the idea of democracy and equality. I don’t support any race-based group attempting to gain privilege in a democratic country, and I can’t see any reason why a race-based group should be treated with respect, as their aims are inherently racist.

    One of the things we’re witnessing in the USA currently, is a backlash to this sort of minority interest superseding majority well being. Sorta like how Jody Wilson-Raybould’s bail reforms put Indigenous demographic representation in prison ahead of general public good/well-fare, and triggered the revolving door offender issues we’ve been trying to sort out for the past 6 years. For some stupid reason we don’t call that racism, even though she took action in a position of power to explicitly benefit her own race. Framed slightly differently, what she did is like “destroying your enemy from within”, an overtly hostile action taken against the interests of the majority of Canadians. It’s about on par with how Harjit Sajjan used Canadian spec ops to prioritize non-Canadian Sikh rescues during the pull out of Kabul, an act our spy agencies flagged, but our liberal government turned around and said we couldn’t call that racism, because we wouldn’t consider the action racist if Sajjan wasn’t also a Sikh. Our government’s trying to tell us that using government influence to benefit your own race isn’t racist: it’s utter absurdity. The public isn’t as stupid and gullible as some think, its just that so far the alternatives at the polling station have proven even less appealing.

    On Lemmy I’m likely a minority voice, but I reckon there are a significant number of Canadians who feel the same. The more unreasonable ‘demands’ from such groups, the more likely that chatter about a minority-privilege industry will increase – the more likely for a catastrophic blow back against any and all equity efforts that have been brought in to date. BC’s already got a few politicians shifting into a new party with very negative views of current norms towards Indigenous rights – and seeing indigenous people get more and more race-based privileges and exceptional treatment in government, isn’t going to quell that resentment at all. Putting a group of racists, who feel empowered/entitled to speak as racists and only focus on their race-based interests, up as leaders in Canada, a democratic country, just seems wrong and embarrassing. Like how the hell do introductions get made with a straight face in these circumstances… “Hi, we’re Canada, a democratic nation that tries our best to conform to the principle that all people are created equal and are equally deserving of dignity and respect. And here’s the group of racists, who have power based on their race/blood, you need to meet with and appease if you want to get things done, apparently?”. If Canada can’t come to an international gathering as a united voice, one able to enact/make good on decisions made by the group of international leaders, then we likely shouldn’t be part of that group – though maybe that’s the “destroy them from within” approach that FN are targeting here.

    At most, in terms of international politics, treat their leaders like premiers. Hell, some of our premiers are FN, and from what we’ve seen Wab Kinew’s one of the most sane premiers on deck currently – if FN want to speak for Canada at the federal level, they can run for election on a platform that benefits / considers everyone involved and get a majority mandate, rather than just their race-specific (racist) interests.

    Like I disagree strongly with the recent bills Carney’s put forward, as they seem like over-reach – but if the alternative is for my interests to be subservient to a non-elected racially-fenced minority group… at least I can theoretically vote to ditch Carney and crowd next time (hopefully there’ll be viable alternatives! Maybe a FN party with a broader view!).

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      You talk about equality and democratic principles, but neither of these allow you to take people’s stuff. To quote the article:

      “Sixty per cent of the natural resources needed in the United States of America are on Native American land,” said Hall, a member of the Mandan, Hidatsa and Arikara Nation, also known as the Three Tribes.

      “So they have to figure out that they got to come to us and talk to us if they want our resource they want to extract. And so I think to bring us to the table, that’s what we’re trying to get to. Let’s talk.”

      And that’s the crux of the issue; nothing from European settlement of North America to the present day gives the Canadian government a legitimate claim to the resource and lands that have historically belonged to the First Nations. Therefore, it’s their stuff and they decide who does what with it; they have about as much responsibility to the majority interest as you have to your neighbors, and I doubt you let your neighbors waltz in and take your money with no compensation. And it’s not like these are wealthy people not paying their fair share; I hope I don’t need to get into the historical and current problems facing First Nations people directly due to colonial and later Canadian policy. It’s not at all difficult to make the argument that Canada is just a bunch of white dudes who came from Europe, committed a bunch of atrocities, declared themselves the legitimate government of Canada, committed more atrocities and are now appealing to the majority interest when it suits them. Canada simply has no legitimate right to the land or resources owned by the First Nations without a treaty consented to by both sides; “we are your legitimate government so give us your shit” is nothing more than rank tyranny. And yes, tyranny of the majority is tyranny.

      TL;DR: You need people’s consent before you take or use their stuff.