Christianity is a social cancer.
Can anyone explain how people with undocumented immigrants in their family were tricked into voting for trump? Makes zero sense to me.
Morons, they are morons.
I wouldn’t rule that out, but I also wouldn’t jump straight to that conclusion. Spanish news media in this country is beyond screwed, it skews even more right-wing as a rule than English mainstream media, in my opinion. During the 2020 election, I would watch the news on Univision with my mother-in-law sometimes, and would see them just not translate something a democrat said in English that didn’t fit their agenda, misrepresent what they said in the translation, or selectively omit things they said to make their remarks sound much more sinister and authoritarian than what they actually said. They were also constantly pushing right-wing conspiracies that had been debunked weeks or months prior, with no mention of their having been disproven.
I would constantly have my mother-in-law coming to me asking about these old ass conspiracies, because with her only knowing Spanish, that would be the first time she heard of them, and she was shocked we weren’t freaking out about it.
More leaning to the morons side, despite how Fox likes to portray immigrants as a monolithic group of rabid socialist and commies backing the Dems so they can destroy the constitution and get gulags up and running, a lot of immigrants from Latin America, Africa and the Caribbean have been fairly conservative, in my experience. A lot of them grew up heavily propagandized by right wing regimes in their home countries, many are much more religious than your average American by birth, and others have had negative experiences with nominally left-wing regimes in their home country that they can’t get over. The last one can be kind of understandable, but the other two drive me crazy.
This is harsh but it definitely seems like a fundamental lack of critical thinking. I genuinely have trouble understanding this behavior otherwise.
Fascists aren’t people. Logic and self interest does not apply.
It’s all libidnal desire to not think, a rejection of a world that demands they grow and change. A rejection of complexity, of knowledge, of responsibility.
Critical thinking does not apply. Their whole way of being runs counter to that. There is no self awareness, no imagination¹, not even self preservation.
Even what you and i think of as communication serves a different purpose for them. It’s like the husks from ‘mass effect’ but more so.
¹older versions of fascism actually had imagination. It was a thing. Filtered out; creates too much complexity.
Same as many other trump voters, pure disillusion and desperation with the status quo. They buy the lie instead.
I read somewhere that none of Trump’s talk of mass, indiscriminate deportation was translated, like in their Spanish language ads. All of the Spanish language ads were supposedly geared towards “nooooo lmao we’re only going to deport violent criminals and drug lords!”
Hmpf; propa mother fucking ganda style.
/ed:your comment is actually really insightful.
They’re lying. They weren’t tricked. Trump openly and repeatedly showed how he felt about immigrants of all kinds. Everyone knew it, everyone knows it, everyone will always know it.
What actually happened is that these people decided to focus on other things. They told themselves a story about how bad the Democrats are, perhaps, which isn’t that hard because there are so many dirty politicians in Washington.
Also, even immigrants can be racist. It’s easy enough for someone to think that the other group of “bad” minorities will be targeted, not their own, because they too want someone to spit on. The same thing is true for many poor white MAGA voters too, right? Trump’s policies are devastating for rural America, but if you’d rather have hate than healthcare, you’re getting what you voted for.
Not sure about this woman, but my naturalized citizen mother is not used to English so she just constantly watch anti-Democrat propaganda from WeChat. 🤷♂️
Edit: I mean we are all legal, but my dad is still a PRC citizen. My grandmother (mother’s mother) is still a PRC citizen too.
I guess people seem to just expect the rule of law to be upheld… 🤦♂️
There’s anti-democrat ads even on Chinese social apps?
Yup; in general China stands to benefit most in the long-term with a second Trump administration. Economic projections are that they will take over the US as the world’s largest economy, and when that happens - it will shift global spheres of influence, especially with the US digging itself so far into debt and isolationism.
First time maybe, second term there is absolutely no excuse
Colonialism cannot simply subjugate minorities with violent force alone, it isn’t enough to turn people against their homes.
Colonialism must divide people with fear and make them pick sides against their heart so that the oppression of Colonialism is distracted from by the oppression of people hurting each other as they try to claw their way up through brutal racist, classist conditions all the while being lectured by white people.
It doesn’t have to make sense to you why people would vote against their interests, you must simply understand that it is essential for authoritarian control and thus rich people have gotten very good at convincing people to do it in the US.
You can only have a class based system where certain groups are excluded from enjoying decent lives if there is always a sales pitch being made to a minority group that if they betray their own interests to help white people come out on top again then they will be let into the white club. Whiteness dies without that and yet whiteness can never really let anybody in who isn’t white without dying itself.
Focus your anger on the immense incongrituities of this situation not the fact that it hurts people so bad they can’t see clearly with their heart anymore.
Some people (~30%) can’t separate reality from fiction.
Immigrant here. No english means same info from the internet. Usual thought process goes :
“Right are working class farmers so left must be the CEOs. Like in my country except they are switched. Makes sense.”
goooooooo fuck yourself Chica. This is what you voted for. Dumb cunt.
Nah. Good luck with that though, dipshit.
This one took me a second, genuine lol.
This is so unnecessary. All she has to do is quit being such a cheapskate, and buy a pardon for a few million bucks. It’s really as simple as that. For $5 million he can even have a special gold HitlerPig citizenship card.
Instead of giving her the leopards treatment, maybe we should be welcoming people like this who want to change allegiances.
No, I am all out of compassion. She is on her own.
It’s not about compassion at all. We need more numbers.
But you already got her right? Any extra energy spent here isn’t a great investment.
If you believe in game theory then you have to tit-for-tat sometimes even if your goal is to be nice and inclusive.
I’m not necessarily advocating for extra energy spent here. I’m advocating for not rubbing the salt into the wound by mocking her, like others are doing in this thread. Doesn’t exactly seem like a good way to be welcoming to new converts.
Changed allegiance? After she voted orange turd in for a second term? And only after she was personally hit with the consequences of her own doing?
Ask the people who are now in concentration camps awaiting deportation who are being separated from their kids and other family about what they think of such nazi supporters.
an imperfect ally is still an ally. We need to cut it with the purity tests on the left or we’re never going to win.
“It is your concern when your neighbor’s wall is on fire” 🔥
- Horace
She will just do it again. You can’t fix stupid.
People learn.
Your argument is a straw man, isn’t it? Of course people can say “you voted for it, you deserve it, what the fuck were you thinking” and also say “come join the protest next week if you actually found your sense of human decency”. That is all perfectly consistent.
When informed adults whine about what they predictably lost based on their own bad decisions, of course their complaints will fall on deaf ears. But if they want to take action to make things better, nobody will get in their way.
I would be tempted to agree with you that it’s a straw man, except for all the other responses to my comment.
Congratulations. You got what you voted for. I seriously hope you learned that lesson.
Narrator: “She didn’t”
Untill the next grifter comes around the corner
Who knew there were so many leopards about?
“don’t shoot yourself in the foot”
“Shoot yourself in the foot to Make America Great Again!”
“I’m telling you man, you shouldn’t shoot yourself in the foot”
Shoots themself in the foot
“WAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHH”
“Told you so”
So now that she’s personally affected by it she wants change lol. But trans people are illegal now so deep down it was still worth it to her.
Actually, that time was before the election, but you all let a lying traitorous basterd fool you all into believing he was on “your” side. Have the day you voted for!
It is baffling how anyone couldn’t see this shit show coming. I constantly feel like I’m the subject of a long running prank.
They knew it would happen. I don’t believe for a second anyone didn’t see this happening.
They are sadly that stupid. I was wrapping up a job and talking to the customer ( die hard trump freak ) , typical " yeah, nice weather this weekend, hope you have a nice vacation this summer etc.".
Somehow the price of “things” comes up and this lady says "yeah it’s like the extended warranty on my car! They keep raising the rates every year and I think I’ve paid them as much as the car cost me used! But at least i know if it breaks down ill be covered "
😭😭😭 Noooo you stupid idiot ! That is a fucking scam ! Everyone knows that!
Well, they are the people that fall for all that dumb ass shit. I don’t understand how they live so long and have nice homes. I just can’t figure it out.
I’m fresh out of compassion. They all deserve this.
Same. Tried to warn them, but they wouldn’t listen.
