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BadmanDan@lemmy.world to Political Discussion and Commentary@lemmy.worldEnglish · 22 days ago

2024 Election If Only Black People Voted. Why Do Dems Struggle So Much in the South With Such Strong Black Support There?

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2024 Election If Only Black People Voted. Why Do Dems Struggle So Much in the South With Such Strong Black Support There?

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  • Zeppo@sh.itjust.works
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    Voter apathy and vote suppression. Republicans are enhancing that lately, too.

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      Gerrymandering too. I’d consider that separate from other forms of vote suppression.

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        Ah yes, packing and cracking the obviously unethical way of manipulating votes so they don’t count as much. A southern tradition.

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          Southern?! It’s an ALL AMERICAN tradition!

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        Gerrymandering doesn’t really apply to presidential elections, at least not directly.

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      This. Also things like this: https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2024/08/05/trump-praises-georgia-election-board/74674946007/

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      I’m guessing OP hasn’t paid attention to the tons of weird, arbitrary rules Republicans in the South added to make it as difficult as possible to vote in blue districts in the South. Hell, a quick Google search answers the question immediately without having to scroll past a few links.

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    Unfortunately, that’s only 14.4% of the US population. Quite a few people think it’s far higher than that. It’s not.

    https://www.pewresearch.org/race-and-ethnicity/fact-sheet/facts-about-the-us-black-population/

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      Yes, but generally concentrated in the southern states

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        One might even say, the states where they were exploited as slave labor for hundreds of years, and lacked any generational wealth to move to better lands…

        Edit: Lol, which confederate soldier’s great grandson downvoted this?

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      What ? Watching US movies, shows etc… I thought it’d be at least 30%

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        When surveyed, some people peg it as high as 50%, it’s not.

        https://today.yougov.com/politics/articles/41556-americans-misestimate-small-subgroups-population

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    Hello there. Nice to meet you. My name is Jerry…Jerry Mander.

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      That’s Gerald Manderley the 3rd, ESQ to you, sport!

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        Elbridge Gerry

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          TIL - thank you!

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    deleted by creator

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      And the gerrymandering. However, I heard the Dems have been at it as well to regain some ground.

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    Because the south is also full of dumbass white rednecks. Duh…

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    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_and_territories_by_African-American_population

    Alabama has the highest support but only 1/4 identify as black. Republicans need 68% of the remaining votes.

    Overall, 12.4% identify as black. That’s not much.

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    Voter suppression, and part of that voter suppression strategy is apathy. If Black people understood they were such a powerhouse, they could change America, and then the world. But old rich white bigots have convinced many of them that their vote doesn’t matter, nothing will change, etc.

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      I was talking to one of my black co-workers before last election and his POV was that his vote didn’t matter. I told him if his vote didn’t matter then why are groups spending so much money to get you to NOT vote. Either by suppression tactics or tricks about where to vote, and also promoting voter apathy.

      He just responded something like ‘both sides’ neither would work for me…I’m pretty sure he didn’t vote.

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    Imo because of repression and not having access to quick and easy voting.

    The GOP fuckers gerrymander the shit out of any place they can get their sweaty hands on. So that doesn’t help. Makes the people feel like no matter what, they won’t be heard, won’t make a difference. Then the Cons limit the ballot boxes, limit the hours for voting, limit mail in voting… Anything they can do to keep people from voting. They know they win as long as no one shows up.

    It’s disgusting and very undemocratic. Everyone needs access to voting— easy and convenient voting. I also think voting should be compulsory (by mail).

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    Because they’re still majority white and white people in those states overwhelmingly voted for Trump.

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    Voter suppression.

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    This is why Black republicans scare me. Like, dude, do you not see with your eyes what is happening??

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      They think they have made it into the in-group and will be spared. As history has proven time and time again, they will not.

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        Racists tend to be Republican, but not all Republicans are racist. I imagine most black Republican voters are voting right for the same reason everyone else does. Ultimately everyone is the same, black or not.

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    Part of it is institutional hurdles to voting.

    The other part of it is the Democratic Party making big promises and then doing jack shit to fulfill them once they’re elected.

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      Im sure you have numbers to prove that there are fewer blacks voting than whites.

      In the local elections, there is gerrymandering to make sure minorities doesn’t actually get a voice in the decisions of the state.

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        In the local elections, there is gerrymandering to make sure minorities doesn’t actually get a voice in the decisions of the state.

        I know. That’s what I meant by ‘institutional hurdles’. (Among other things.)

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    There are way more rascist crackers in Texas than you can possibly imagine. Makes sense when your state was founded by assholes and slave traffickers helping the US states acquire more slaves after direct import was banned. Remember, the Alamo was full of colonist insurgents taking land to continue slavery.

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    Because a huge chunk of the population doesn’t vote.

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      Because a huge chunk of voters don’t have a progressive on their ballot

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    Computers and marketing own humanity. There is no honest democracy.

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