Birds seen stuck in position for hours in Tsuen Wan prompts call to police, but source says investigation affected by lack of CCTV at site.
How is this not the onion
the mere existence of the incident, “suspect” animal abuse, lack of CCTV, “The spokesman added that there was no evidence suggesting previous attempts of anyone in the area using glue to trap or mistreat birds.”
I’m not a fan of pigeons. But someone going out of their way to do something this sadistic to a living thing is all kinds of serial-killer-predictor type fucked up.
Did you know they are a type of dove? And they only exist in cities because humans brought them there.
I’d happily beat someone to death over something like this
You wanna see animal abuse?
I’ll fucking show you abuse.
Glue them to the wall first
Yeah, I’m pretty sure I’d see red if I witnessed something like that.
Are you vegan?
Do you glue animals to walls?
Only if they are human animals and only if they ask me to UwU
I am, and if them not being vegan is a problem for you then put me in coach.
The point is that being that (rightfully) angry at animal abuse and not being vegan is fucking hypocritical.
No its not and I’m tired of trying to explain the concept of moral equivalence to idiots who think that it is.
Its the same difference as would be hunting for food versus hunting for trophy sport. I can be perfectly fine with people hunting a deer in order to make some delicious deer sausage. But be against them hunting that same animal just to cut off its head to show off in their den.
I can be perfectly morally fine with the idea that SOME forms of lower life are acceptable harvests for my own sustenance, but be morally outraged by animals being killed for needless reasons or sadism.
Despite vegans attempts to muddy the issue, context matters.
Its the same reason I would set a trap to kill a mouse that is causing trouble in my house, eating and pooping into my rice bag. But wouldn’t go out of my way to plant traps in a place where those same mice aren’t bothering me.
Its the same reason I’d kill a moth that is keeping me from sleeping at night, but leave it alone if its harmlessly flying around my garage.
Context matters. So quit your faux-outrage bullshit.
This would be a lot more convincing if humans needed to eat animals, which we don’t. If done for pleasure ( taste or aesthetics), it’s hypocritical to then condemn other animal abuse/cruelty.
Actually, it’s been widely proven that being carnivores is precisely the reason we evolved to be where we are in the first place.
There was no other diet that had the caloric bang-for-the-buck that allowed the complex requirements of the hominid brain to actually evolve.
Due to a process of ‘encephalization’, humans have a larger brain size than would be expected for their body size. To sustain an expansively large brain, energetic compensation was required during hominin evolution. When examining individual organs, the brain mass surplus (and its energy requirement), is closely balanced by the reduction in size (and energy requirement) of the gastrointestinal tract. This is not surprising, considering the gut is the only organ that can sufficiently vary in size to offset the metabolic cost of a larger brain (Aiello and Wheeler, 1995). This process required a shift from a diet high in bulky plants of low digestibility (requiring voluminous fermentation chambers such as a rumen or cecum, or an extensive colon), to a higher-quality diet where foods are more energy dense and require less digestive processing. In temperate grass and woodland environments, this equates to an animal-derived protein-rich and fat-rich diet (Speth, 1989).
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So sure, keep making up your bullshit about whether or not we need to eat meat. But while you’re doing so, remember to thank a carnivore for evolving us to the point where you have the priviledge to make such a choice.
“Do you eat cheese? THEN DON’T FUCKING COMPLAIN WHEN SOMEONE GLUES A PIGEON TO A WALL” is surely the most effective way to convince people while feeling morally superior.
You are projecting your insecurities onto me. I don’t feel morally superior, but have a think what saying that does to you. Suddenly there is no reason to think about the stuff discussed here, because if I only say these things to feel morally superior then obviously it can’t be true and you don’t have to change anything, right? You are short circuting your own critical thinking.
You definitely like telling people how they should feel and what they should discuss, I can give you that.
Everyone has their limit to the ratio between tolerance and group convenience. Even vegans must also tolerate plant cruelty, for one. It’s not an “on-or-off” switch.
Let’s assume plant cruelty is a thing, for the sake of argument. About 50% of cereals produced, and a 3rd of all crop land are used to feed livestock.
Yet livestock account for 17% of the world calories
The best way to reduce “plant harm” is to remove meat consumption. Bonus points for stopping animal cruelty, reducing transport of gigatons of freight, reducing deforestation & even returning land to wilderness
I know, my point is there’s still a level of cruelty that everyone tolerates. Yet reduction is always better. Punishing such pigeon-gluers is reduction. Being vegetarian is reduction. Being vegan is reduction. That does not mean being any of these is being hypocritical.
There is no plant cruelty, plants aren’t sentient and do not feel pain or suffering.
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no, it’s not
Yeah honestly the kind of person who would do this should be killed. There is nothing good that will come from them continuing to be here with the rest of us.
For all we know it was a kid or someone off his meds.
“Many that live deserve death. And some that die deserve life. Can you give it to them? Then do not be too eager to deal out death in judgement. For even the very wise cannot see all ends.”
— Gandalf
This isn’t anywhere like an onion article but it’s sad nonetheless
How is gluing an animal to something not animal abuse? That’s like suspecting a wall is solid after walking into it.
It is conceivable that the glue was put there for another purpose, and the pigeons simply landed in it. That’s just not likely in this case
Why would anyone put glue on something and not glue anything on top?
It could also be a trap. Put glue and some food on it and see pigeons get trapped to death. That’s how a lot of rat traps work.
In the UK we have anti vandal paste which is a kinda gluey black tar to dissuade people from climbing.
Its a buddhist thing.
They are prohibited from killing animals, so they just put glue on a piece of tin “If it’s your time to go you will go”.
Source?
Well, see it in the context of the entire animal industry. If what happens in slaughterhouses isn’t animal abuse for someone, why would this be?
Someone found a place that wasn’t constantly monitored by CCTV, crazy.
Yeah, they really buried the lede
What brand of pigeon glue do y’all use?
To fasten a ducks i just use the tape; I dunno if it’s rated for pigeons though.
I do know how to glue gorillas, if you need advice on that?
How do you apply your gorilla glue?
Very carefully.
Prep is everything, clean the gorilla thoroughly first - do not skip this step.
Apply a thin layer to both surfaces.
The trickiest part is holding the gorilla still for a full 3 minutes for the initial bond to form.
But once that’s done you’re golden., it should hold until full strength is achieved after 24 hours (in normal jungle conditions).
So could a gorilla take on 100 men carrying that glue?
Do the men have prep time?
Only the strongest fast bonding epoxy will do when I need them to carry coconuts across the sea
Those are swallows, you absolute nonce
I thought they could grip it by the husk.
It’s not a matter of where he grips it!
Hugtight
I thought maybe it was a glue trap for rats left out. Naa this creature went out of way to glue down an animal. Wtf
We suspect animal abuse, but we can’t be certain
“Suspect”? How could it possibly not be?
There’s a remote possibility that the glue might have been on the wall or the pigeons for some unrelated reason and they got glued to the wall all by themselves when they landed on it, I suppose.
