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    I wasn’t ready for how weird this comment section turned out to be…

  • carpelbridgesyndrome@sh.itjust.works
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    There are fern trees, conifer trees, and flowering trees. Where are my moss trees?

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      https://gobotany.nativeplanttrust.org/species/dendrolycopodium/dendroideum/

      https://www.inaturalist.org/taxa/204198-Dendrolycopodium-obscurum

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    Same for roots, btw, just earlier.

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    By the logic we are not humans…

    • xor@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      no, we didn’t have mice and also ants evolve into humans… there’s one distinct line of ancestors…
      it’s called convergent evolution. check out wikipedia

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    So if you look at a tiny blade of grass and a gigantic tree its like looking at a Chihuahua and a brachiosaurus. And there are smaller things and bigger things in the aminal kingdum!

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    I think palm trees are a kind of grass

    • IhaveCrabs111@lemmy.world
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      I didn’t know that and I agree

    • fossilesque@mander.xyzOPM
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      I’m firmly in this camp.

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    I’m a billion years, crabs will start turning into trees and trees into crabs. merging into the ubercreature

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      I imagine it’ll look like paras

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        Paras is a fungus. Totally different thing.

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          Ah you’re right. Torterra then

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      I’m a billion years

      Damn. You look good for your age.

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        I’d argue, but I agree. I don’t need to know how they look, if they’re a billion years and capable of communicating, whatever state they’re in looks good. Even if its a fungus posessed rot monster.

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          Like a tree, for example.

    • PlantDadManGuy@lemmy.world
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      “ubercreature” excuse me, lichen would like a word with you

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    So that’s why every stargate planet looks like Canada

    • LeFantome@programming.dev
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      That and every Stargate planet is Vancouver

    • Knuschberkeks@leminal.space
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      Sadly Lemmy isn’t big enough to support niche communities, but I really enjoyed r/unexpectedstargate back in the day.

      • kelseybcool@lemmy.world
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        Isn’t big enough yet ❤️

    • ravenaspiring@sh.itjust.works
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      🤣🤣🤣

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    Had to look it up because I didnt beleive

    sure enough its correct

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tree

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      Something poetic and quaint about a link to a Wikipedia article titled “Tree”

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        reddit has broken me. I was expecting it to point to weed.

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          Here you go.

          https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tree

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            Reddit has broken me. I was expecting a rickroll

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              sooo glad I wasn’t alone.

              anyhow, here’s a fun song.

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          I was expecting an undirected acyclic graph.

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            Yo momma so fat she sat on a binary tree and squashed it into a linked list in O(1) time.

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              That happens to me constantly

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    here’s a cool blog post that expands on this There’s no such thing as a tree (phylogenetically)

    i didn’t even put it in a bookmark folder, it’s just loose on my bookmark bar because it’s such an interesting post that i reread from time to time

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      Very cool read, thank you

    • Thadden@lemmy.world
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      That was a very fun and interesting reading! Thanks for sharing

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      Maybe…but I doubt many of these phylogenies use DNA, and if so, likely only a single or few genes. Nowhere near enough resolution to accurately determine genetic relatedness. Woody plants may actually be more related than we think.

      These sorts of phylogenies tend to use morphological characteristics which is an unreliable measure of genetic relatedness.

      I will stand corrected if wrong though

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    Also, no such thing as fish.

    Google it.

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      Impossible. If there were no such thing as fish, how could bees be fish?

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        I don’t have the tools to know how to respond to this comment. You win.

        Edit: Holy shit. I just did a quick google. Boydster is not shitting us. Just google “bees are fish.” Oddly enough, this actually furthers the thesis of fish not existing.

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          This is like the whole, “triceratops didn’t exist, it’s just a young Torosaurus” thing all over again. My world can’t handle this!

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          I don’t have the tools to know how to respond to this comment. You win.

          This is the best way I’ve ever seen utter befuddlement expressed. Chapeau!

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          To add on for anyone who is lazy like me, the thing where Google summarizes says California has classified bees as fish under an environmental protection act. According to the first result (Reddit) it’s because fish is a catch all term in that law. Instead of listing all the animals they just use fish. Because fish,bees, and the other animals are all invertebrates.

          Now whoever reads this has three Lemmy comments, a reddit thread reference, and an ai overview reference as some solid sources

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            Fish are vertebrates they have a backbone

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              Some fish are, yeah

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                Sorry bro, all fish are vertebrates

                While I understand it is an arbitrary classification system designed by humans, one of the defining factors of fish is that they are vertebrates.

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                  Source?

                  Because all the sources I’ve come across say that “fish” is not a monophylatic classification and is essentially arbitrary.

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                  What about starfishes? Checkmate.

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            What a nicely packaged little subthread to come across while decompressing after a super busy day, lol!

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            Fish are vertebrates they have a backbone

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          Beavers are also fish.

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    My sister in law recently quipped that “Trees are a social construct” and at first I thought she was just being glib but now I can’t get that statement out of my head.

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      I listen to a podcast called Completely Arbortrary. They talk about a different tree species each episode. They say trees are a strategy, not a strict definition.

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        Thanks! Just subscribed. See they have a couple Metasequoia episodes -a favorite of mine .

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    Nature likes things that turn hard- Wait what?

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      u might be onto something, this thread sent me down the rabbit hole and penises have evolved independently at least 6 times

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      Weren’t there like, several millions of years where trees evolved but nothing had come yet to break down wood, so like, generations of dead forest just fell on top of each other until some fungus was like “that looks yummy”?

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        Yes, that is how we got coal.

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        The molecule is called lignin. And yes, there was a good 60 million years before that particular problem was cracked.

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          Next is plastics

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            First, we bio-engineer bacteria and fungi to prefer plastic as food.

            Second, these bacteria become a serious endopathogen in the human body while scavenging our precious bodily microplastics.

            Third, we engineer a bacteriophage to attack the bacteria in our brains.

            Fourth…

            The whole human comedy just keeps going and going

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              The beautiful part is that when wintertime rolls around the gorillas simply freeze to death

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                Exactly the reference I thought of reading this

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              I know an old woman who swallowed a fly…

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    Its called convergent evolution and you also have some shit you wouldnt believe that makes all apes similar to us.

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      Apes are so similar to us because we came from a common ancestor. I’d love to hear if there are traits we evolved independently after we split though.

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      Hit me. I love evolutionary fun facts.

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        smackkk

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      Well humans are a type of great ape, sooooll

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    Unsurpassable power: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crabtree

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      The absolute peak of evolution. Everyone, go home.

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      Not to be confused with Dryococelus aka the “tree lobster”

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      Good moaning!

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