Somehow this is the only country on earth where this seems to happen. When talking about shootings involving guns, okay, fine, the US is certainly an outlier there, but every country has cars and police.

This is murder.

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    If I’m in a car and there is a guy standing with a gun drawn and pointed at me… I might get scared and flee. That is not crazy, that is human behaviour.

    If a police officer is stupid enough to stand in front of a car it kinda shoes his education and training level. Non existent. That is the entire problem.

    Blame this woman all you want. I don’t know of she stole from the store or not but it’s irrelevant. She was shot because she was suspected of shoplifting. The woman and these police officers made all this happen together. The only difference is that the police officers are supposed to know better, they are supposed to know how to do their job, how to deescalate and they didn’t.

    The second they drew their guns they were wrong, they were escalating the situation. They could kmhave kept their guns holstered as they were in no danger. The girl got scared and wanted to run off. LET HER. you can catch her later, it’s not as if she was a criminal mastermind. She did not deserve to die because of this

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      I really don’t have anything more to add. You can stop strawmanning this into oblivion with statements I’ve already said I agree with.

      I never said she deserved to die. I never said they were right to draw weapons. So I’m not sure why you keep pushing those points. For the 8:th time now. I agree.

      I blame the cops for escalating the situation. I blame the woman for her last action of trying to run them over.

      Two wrongs does not make a right.

      If you see it differently that’s ok. But don’t go putting words into my mouth I never once said or hinted at.

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        I’m not sure what words I was putting in your mouth but from what you’re saying er pretty much agree.

        The woman may be a criminal (or not) and yeah, she should not have tried to escape though maybe she panicked with the guns, who knows. The police officers are very much in the wrong, they should not have been standing in front of the car, they should not have drawn their guns, they should have deescalated the situation.

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          Blocking the way of escape is common practise pretty much everywhere. Even here where I live, where police-school lasts for 2.5 years, rather than 6 months.

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            Oh I believe you that this is done everywhere in the US, and it shows.what other civilized country has so many cases of police shooting and killing people for tiny offenses?

            It’s again an extreme lack of training. You can just let them go and resolve the situation later, or do a list of other things than deciding to stand in front of the car and then claim your life was in danger because you were standing in front of the car…

            This shit hardly ever happens in other countries, only in the US is this a multiple per day occurrence. Doesn’t that make you think that US police officers should receive better training?

            Mind you, the 6 months is in a good state, there are many way worse. And then there is the problem that many police officers get trained with pseudo science and outright bullshit. So if these police officers magically get 2.5 years of education, good on them. Of they stand in front of cars to block them, then I can already tell you want kind of education they get.

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              Oh I believe you that this is done everywhere in the US

              Believe it or not. But the US is not the entire world. I’m not talking just the US when I say everywhere.

              This shit hardly ever happens in other countries

              As in police standing in front of cars? Happens in tons of countries.

              As in frequency police shootings? We’ve already mentioned and talked about the lack of training. Like so many times. Why are you continuing to argue and debate about stuff we already agree upon?

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              On average, US officers spend around 21 weeks training

              That is almost 5 months.

              I’m so sorry, my estimation was off by 1 month. Please forgive me.

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                I actually said it was 6 months. It’s even less than that