Russia this, Russia that, it always magically comes down to Russia.
People have been talking about this here for years now? Why is it just now when this stuff hits the national news that people suddenly start shouting “RUSSIA!” like people would yell “WITCH” in the dark ages?
This isn’t a brand new thing that’s come from nowhere. It’s literally been in discussion for decades. William Aberhart was premier way back in the 30’s with the Social Credit Party and people wanted to separate from Canada since he wanted to roll out what was basically a UBI program to assist people during the Depression, only to have the Mackenzie King Liberals state they’d refuse to give unemployment assistance to non-Liberal provincial governments in response, causing people to call for it.
Since then there’s been plenty of people calling for this, mainly starting from the 70s with Pierre Trudeau. There was the Western Canada Concept (WCC), West-Fed, the Alberta Party was pro-separatist for decades, the Separation Party, Alberta First, the Freedom Conservative Party, Wexit Alberta, there’s the Wildrose Independence Party which formed from the previous two merging, hell, even the Alberta Republicans have been around now for what, three years?
Even federally there was a big Wexit movement the last election or two before this one. Before that this went back to the Reform Party days when a notable amount of separatist-minded folk voted for Manning’s party.
Edit: Crazy stuff getting downvoted on my comments for basing what I say on facts at hand, the original comment literally admits they have “no evidence or indication”, and yet y’all still flock to the idea. That’s just sad.
Yeah, California and Texas have been talking about seceding for decades too. I’m not saying Danielle Smith invented it. I’m saying that it clearly sounds like some let’s-fuck-up-Canada’s-politics bullshit, and oh look! Down below in the comments you can find that she’s super convinced that NATO started the Ukraine war, they had secret biolabs, the separatist regions should govern independently, and Ukraine should be “neutral” (which I am guessing means they are forbidden to get help defending themselves when someone starts blowing up their apartment buildings, power stations, and citizens.)
That’s new. The coincidental overlap between the people who say weird bullshit which inflames internal tensions (or tries to), and the people who really suddenly feel strongly about all these foreign policies that are coincidentally overlapping the exact precise shape of what geopolitical enemies of the US/Canada would like to see, is very much new. No one who was talking about California secession also felt like Osama Bin Laden was provoked and we needed to let the trade center decide on its own whether it wanted to fall down and not interfere.
Look, I really don’t want to come off the wrong way here and look like a jerk, but just with how people always seem to be so quick to associate things with Russian interference, in my mind it just feels like a repainted version of anti-Semitic conspiracy theories where “the Jews” are pulling the strings on everything. Like it feels like the more we immediately jump on the idea of Russian interference being involved, the less it feels like we separate Russians from the Russian government.
Like this isn’t to say “Russia good” or that Russia’s government isn’t doing disinformation campaigns, but the connection of Smith’s thoughts on Ukraine being tied to Alberta’s separatist movement is iffy at best. She’s stated she feels backed into a corner of needing to make this move, and while it seems stupid at first, it actually checks out with the landscape of Alberta politics.
I made a comment on another post few days ago outlining things here. It just seems weird that Russia would target Smith and Albertans specifically? It’s more likely the case that her thoughts on Ukraine are completely separate from the separatism stuff and just a result of her consumption of American conservative media outlets more likely to have disinformation campaigns on like the Daily Wire and FOX News, which she seems to enjoy based on her meeting Carlson and Shapiro.
Russia this, Russia that, it always magically comes down to Russia.
People have been talking about this here for years now? Why is it just now when this stuff hits the national news that people suddenly start shouting “RUSSIA!” like people would yell “WITCH” in the dark ages?
This isn’t a brand new thing that’s come from nowhere. It’s literally been in discussion for decades. William Aberhart was premier way back in the 30’s with the Social Credit Party and people wanted to separate from Canada since he wanted to roll out what was basically a UBI program to assist people during the Depression, only to have the Mackenzie King Liberals state they’d refuse to give unemployment assistance to non-Liberal provincial governments in response, causing people to call for it.
Since then there’s been plenty of people calling for this, mainly starting from the 70s with Pierre Trudeau. There was the Western Canada Concept (WCC), West-Fed, the Alberta Party was pro-separatist for decades, the Separation Party, Alberta First, the Freedom Conservative Party, Wexit Alberta, there’s the Wildrose Independence Party which formed from the previous two merging, hell, even the Alberta Republicans have been around now for what, three years?
Even federally there was a big Wexit movement the last election or two before this one. Before that this went back to the Reform Party days when a notable amount of separatist-minded folk voted for Manning’s party.
Edit: Crazy stuff getting downvoted on my comments for basing what I say on facts at hand, the original comment literally admits they have “no evidence or indication”, and yet y’all still flock to the idea. That’s just sad.
Yeah, California and Texas have been talking about seceding for decades too. I’m not saying Danielle Smith invented it. I’m saying that it clearly sounds like some let’s-fuck-up-Canada’s-politics bullshit, and oh look! Down below in the comments you can find that she’s super convinced that NATO started the Ukraine war, they had secret biolabs, the separatist regions should govern independently, and Ukraine should be “neutral” (which I am guessing means they are forbidden to get help defending themselves when someone starts blowing up their apartment buildings, power stations, and citizens.)
That’s new. The coincidental overlap between the people who say weird bullshit which inflames internal tensions (or tries to), and the people who really suddenly feel strongly about all these foreign policies that are coincidentally overlapping the exact precise shape of what geopolitical enemies of the US/Canada would like to see, is very much new. No one who was talking about California secession also felt like Osama Bin Laden was provoked and we needed to let the trade center decide on its own whether it wanted to fall down and not interfere.
Look, I really don’t want to come off the wrong way here and look like a jerk, but just with how people always seem to be so quick to associate things with Russian interference, in my mind it just feels like a repainted version of anti-Semitic conspiracy theories where “the Jews” are pulling the strings on everything. Like it feels like the more we immediately jump on the idea of Russian interference being involved, the less it feels like we separate Russians from the Russian government.
Like this isn’t to say “Russia good” or that Russia’s government isn’t doing disinformation campaigns, but the connection of Smith’s thoughts on Ukraine being tied to Alberta’s separatist movement is iffy at best. She’s stated she feels backed into a corner of needing to make this move, and while it seems stupid at first, it actually checks out with the landscape of Alberta politics.
I made a comment on another post few days ago outlining things here. It just seems weird that Russia would target Smith and Albertans specifically? It’s more likely the case that her thoughts on Ukraine are completely separate from the separatism stuff and just a result of her consumption of American conservative media outlets more likely to have disinformation campaigns on like the Daily Wire and FOX News, which she seems to enjoy based on her meeting Carlson and Shapiro.