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Albertans as a whole are very patriotic Canadians in general. This is all a Marlaina temper tantrum to distract from her many scandals. Even IF Alberta were to vote 100% to separate, it would require a constitutional change, which will never happen.
Also Alberta’s doesn’t have a leg to stand on in terms of being in any way culturally different from the rest of Canada.
Fuck Danielle Smith and her gaggle of Maple Magas. Just move to Texas already to help build Trumps wall ya traitorous Losers.
I’ll even help pay for their airfare!
We all already are!
That’s irrelevant.
The intent is to trigger a provincial referendum, and hope for something stupid like Brexit to happen. If they get anything close to 50%, then Trump will pull a Crimea and invade to LiBeRaTe the poor oPprEsSeD minority.
I guarantee she’s already discussed a plan with Trump about these scenarios. She’s a Maga hat traitor.
If someone can get evidence for this, it should arguably be grounds for treason.
Albertans will be surprised to learn just how little land they can take with them.
Give the unmarked American owned media organizations with major Republican connections time to soft sell Albertans.
It only takes months to soft-pivot literally everything.
One theory is Trudeau put in a clearly unpopular capital gains tax policy and blew past the budget to have Freeland blame him was all preordained in order to elect Carney as the savior, who is a climate change advocate who will appear progressive enough to push a pipeline through Quebec using this constitutional crisis. In order to lower reliance on Russian energy globally, since we cant get a pipeline for LNG overseas exports any other way, given how provincial powers work in Canada.
The last 15 years Alberta contributed 240b to Ottawa while Quebec received 327b, if Alberta leaves as a tariff wipes out Quebecs industries its obviously leaves them with no choice. Cons obviously cant push a pipeline either, given Quebecs hatred of the Cons.
How much did Alberta get back?
How much did Quebec contribute?
That’s after taking into account what they get back. That’s just net gain/loss.
Where can I find these numbers? I’ve never actually seen how provinces compare and I’m curious about the rest
What do you believe this article is concluding? Do you think it’s a completely objective and fair assessment of the topic?
Its concluding that if Alberta leaves Quebec will be screwed, so its in Quebecs interest to allow a pipeline to prevent secession. The tariffs on manufacturing emboldens this with an even larger crisis. The long term plan would be to end the reliance on Russian energy, assuming its true, but it seems to be unfolding as predicted so far which is neat.
Heres who was predicting it, starting about 28 minutes in:
Right wing crap “think tank” and not a serious or credible source for anything.
Its not nonsense, Alberta gets 0$ in equalization payments most years. They also have a small population with extremely high corporate profits with high margins, so those corporations pay more taxes, regardless if it trickles down to workers or not. Also during a recession oil generally does okay, while other provinces are wiped out.
No shit, it’s extremism and most people find that behaviour repulsive.
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It’s a distraction from all the things for which she should fry for.
A better title: Alberta on par with QC and SK in opposing separation.
As much as I would love to deride this minority on their position, I’d rather prefer we
- try to understand if there is anything they see that the rest doesn’t
- inform them about the fallacy of separation, its cost, how it impacts the international leverage, etc.
- every province would build their own equivalent of the Bloc, to defend provincial interests, and to be better at being a federation of provinces.
There absolutely should be a Bloc BriCois.
sensationalism swings both ways: both right and left. 25% is a sizeable number and we kind of know the source of it: Western Alienation coupled with dysfunctional electoral system (FPP) it breeds disenfranchisement. Also to note 60% voter turnout with 52% of it going to UPC ends up being around 30%… in other words that’s pretty much UCP base. And UCP is busy fostering Western Alienation because it’s easier than actually try and tackle it. Persistently Insulting your opponent is not a way to maintain dialogue yet this is all UCP was doing for the last 6yrs. They ran province for 50yrs, sat on pile of cash, threw it out the window with billions mysteriously disappearing from budget and they cry a river about inequality and use Wexit as a stick hoping to scare Fed. People are pissed because province was turned into one-trick pony that is strapped to volatile oil prices and they are legit scared for their livelihood. UCP dismissed any proposals or offers to retrain existing workforce to soften the transition, instead they chose to double down on Alienation and Oil. What I’m saying is - Feds reached out with money and offers to help, UCP either neglected or outright declined to use that money, because it wrecks narrative where everything is Feds fault (if Feds are not Cons, but if they are, it’s previous Fed fault). So, UCP is keeping average Albertan hostage to their “game of politics” while keeping folks enraged and sucked deep into vortex of falsehoods and very few in their electorate want to hear otherwise. Reality disconnect is too painful to admit so it’s best to keep living this rage dream.
To be fair, Western provinces cannot really outbid QC+ON combo in both chambers. While Parliament represents provinces based o population, I think Senate should’ve been an equal representation from each province balancing out inherent inequality of Parliament… It’s not unprecedented for PM to appoint “extra” senators to represent West so Carney can do that to help things along.
