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    Canada should just outright ban Tesla at this point. It’s head honcho is a South African Nazi who’s on record calling Trudeau Governor and saying Canada isn’t a country.

    There’s a lot of other EV and automotive companies we can give our money to.

    Sucks for Tesla, but Tesla sucks.

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    Lol, they are under investigation for fraud because of this.

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      Like, fuck Tesla and Musk in particular, but they paid out the rebates to the customers as they bought vehicles over the year, and put all the rebate requests in on their behalf just before the deadline. This wasn’t fraud in any concievable manner.

      Edit: holee fuk, people are big mad at not blindly condemning one company that does the same thing all the other dealerships do. I look forward to Tesla going tits up, but this is a nothingburger.

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        If that’s what happened, they should be able to prove that and the money will go to them. But I’ve certainly heard stories, and I look forward to the results of an investigation.

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        Please explain how that makes sense: customer buys car, Tesla gives them rebate, Tesla doesn’t collect rebate for months and just sits there with no money. Then tesla decides to call in rebates all at once when it’s announced that they run out?

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          HR Block does taxes, rebates people immediately out of their pocket. Submits all refund requests at April 30, gets money back.

          Paperwork often gets done in batches. Companies invoice at the end of month but pay their employees weekly or biweekly.

          This isn’t nefarious, no matter how much you (and I) hate Tesla.

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            If they were doing this monthly, that assumes they were selling thousands of cars each month. That seems unlikely.

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        It was also one location. So did no other location do rebates?

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        They’re under investigation because it is believed they boosted sales in their books to get the rebates for cars that were not actually sold…

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        Considering Tesla did not asked for the rebates themselves, but it was something the buyers had to do, I think it’s fraud.

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          Not necessarily, dealerships could take care of it and just give it to the customers in the meantime, a bit like a 0% loan that is being refunded by the government. That’s how pretty much all federal rebates for EV cars were handled because it’s a much less painful experience for the consumers to not have to deal with the paperwork and waiting for the money.

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            And that’s fraud. I think it’s exactly what they wanted, to ask for as many as they could so they could sell the cars for less than the competition.

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              No it’s not, it’s exactly how all dealerships handled the federal rebate, the only weird thing is Tesla not claiming them regularly (from what they’re saying) hence the investigation, but otherwise it’s perfectly normal and legal that the dealerships were taking care of the trouble for their clients.

              Down vote all you want, it was still the way it was done and is why all other dealerships were pissed when they couldn’t submit their paperwork for their recent sales because Tesla submitted enough to empty the pot.

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    Why would Tesla threaten to sue instead of just waiting for the result of the investigation?

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        Install Firefox, when there is a paywall, hit the button near the end of URL for reader view. Paywall is gone

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          Does that work for you on this particular link? I tried that, but it seems thestar is doing some trickery to make reader view not work.

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            Actually for this one I didn’t need reader mode, o have no script add on and that blocks a lot. In Vanadium browser I can just click the X at the top if the popups

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    Super funny to me that they believe this is going to work out well for them. The math don’t math and they were caught red handed.

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      There’s no math to math if it’s a backlog that a few dealers were told to do all the paperwork for.

      It either is, or isn’t and it’s going to be easy to prove either way.

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        It is amazing how productive they can be with almost 9,000 in three days eh?

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          9000 what? You still seem to think they did 9000 sales in 3 days but that’s not what supposedly happened. They could be months of sales across the whole country handled by these 3 stores in a last minute push.

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            9000 things you would be able to define if you read. Someone was nice enough to post an article without a paywall. I suggest you start there before responding to me again. :)

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              Tesla only did 9000 pieces of paper work across 3 locations in 3 days.

              Anyone business could do that, it’s not hard.

              Edit: It’s not even in dispute that they did 9000 pieces of paperwork in 3 days. Math checks out!

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                Tesla only did 9000 pieces of paper work across 3 locations in 3 days.

                Anyone business could do that, it’s not hard.

                Edit: It’s not even in dispute that they did 9000 pieces of paperwork in 3 days. Math checks out!

                It is in dispute because I said “almost 9,000” when in fact it is 8,653 as per the article you didn’t read which I told you to read before responding and now you have egg on your face. Shame.

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                  Dude, you need to get a life lol. I’m just using your number.

                  Its a claimed backlog. Since English must not be your first language if you didn’t understand the article let me help you out.

                  Dictionary

                  Definitions from Oxford Languages · Learn more

                  back·log

                  /ˈbakˌlôɡ,ˈbakˌläɡ/

                  noun

                  noun: backlog; plural noun: backlogs

                  an accumulation of something, especially uncompleted work or matters that need to be dealt with.
                  "the company took on extra staff to clear the backlog of work"
                  
  • Bonus @lemm.ee
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    Which is it, Leon? Lawlessness or laws which benefit you? If you think foreign governments are going to enforce financial penalties against themselves to benefit you, it sounds like you’re all in for there being laws again. This is in direct conflict with literally everything you’re doing to destroy America and every other sovereign democracy.