• TrickDacy@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    8
    ·
    1 day ago

    You wouldn’t know it in my town. Those fucking piece of shit cars are god-damned everywhere.

    • Toneswirly@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      4
      ·
      1 day ago

      Theyre selling em at very small margins to boost visibility and move overflowing inventory. Lots of teslas does not equal lots of profit.

      • Lemmyoutofhere
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        2
        ·
        14 hours ago

        They are the highest profit margin car on the road, because they are so cheaply made.

    • Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      14
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      1 day ago

      That’s all government contracts so it’s out of consumer control. There’s also no way to get people to cancel their StarLink Internet when there is no alternative.

      However it should be demanded of anyone running during primaries and general elections that they immediately cancel all existing SpaceX contracts even if it puts NASA projects behind schedule.

          • sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            5
            ·
            1 day ago

            True, but… they do exist.

            They are an alternative.

            Not a comparable alternative in terms of bandwidth and other factors… but they do exist.

            Also: 5G based … gateways, hotspot+router boxes, whatever they’re called.

            Yes, you have to be relatively near civilization… but a whole lot of places with shitty physical internet architecture?

            That’s in the same performance ballpark.

            I have been using a 5g gateway for months now, because my building’s internet line is just fucking borked, no expected repair timeline.

            If you are out in the boonies, but not… really, really out in the boonies? 5g gateway may be a reasonable option for you.

            • Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              2
              arrow-down
              1
              ·
              11 hours ago

              An alternative implies a someone equivalent product. Other satellite services aren’t equivalent. It’s like telling someone to cancel their fiber and use a dial up modem because its equivalent.

              Also: 5G based … gateways

              If 5g was available everywhere, no one would use Starlink which is slower and more expensive. Starlink is used where you can’t get 5g.

              • sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com
                link
                fedilink
                English
                arrow-up
                1
                arrow-down
                1
                ·
                edit-2
                10 hours ago

                Not a comparable alternative in terms of bandwidth and other factors… but they do exist.

                • quote from Me, a post or two up this comment chain.

                I have addressed your unqualified, black and white statement (‘there is no alternative’) with nuance and caveats and a deeper explantion of … alternatives, and their caveats.

                You have now responded with … entirely missing the point I was making.

            • PacMan@sh.itjust.works
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              2
              arrow-down
              1
              ·
              15 hours ago

              Lot of places don’t have access to 5G. Starlink truly is the only solution. Things like mountains and just general rural living make Starlink the only option sadly. Also if you live in an area with poor infrastructure like Puerto Rico. A hurricane will knock comms out for a few days to a week unless you have Starlink

              • sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com
                link
                fedilink
                English
                arrow-up
                1
                arrow-down
                2
                ·
                edit-2
                14 hours ago

                … No. Starlink is absolutely not ‘truly the only solution.’

                As I already pointed out, there are other Satellite based internet providers. Yes, they generally are not as fast or inexpensive or have as good coverage as Starlink… but they do exist.

                As far as 5G based net goes… actually, many, many parts of the world that have more recently gained wide spread internet access… have done so via 4g and 5g based data plans, which are often far less restrictive in terms of a hotspot limited data plan when connecting to other devices, than is common in say, the US.

                There… is no real, technical reason a phone, with a 5g unlimited data plan… should have some arbitrary cap on ‘oh well this internet access isn’t allowed because it is going to another device!’

                … Data caps in general are complete horseshit, anyone remember Net Neutrality?.. but I’m getting off topic.

                It is way less expensive to set up a few cell phone towers in an area… than build out an entire physical line to every home and officr and factory.

                And again, as I already stated… if you are in an area that actually has a solid 5g coverage map… there are many cases now where a home on the outskirts of a major metropolitan area can actually now choose a much faster and cheaper 5g gateway router thingy mabob over Starlink.

                As far as I am aware, the only actually unique thing that Starlink offers is basically high speed internet, potentially literally anywhere, for something moving, like a seaborne vessel, or RV on the road… but I don’t know if that plan is actually still supported by Starlink, at least at a general public/consumer level.

                I don’t know if anyone ever tried Starlink on a commercial airliner, my guess is that a jet would move too fast for it to really work that well, also possible interference problems with other electronic communications equipment on an aircraft.

                This ‘internet in motion’ capability obviously has military applications… but it has become increasingly evident that this is a very bad fucking idea for many reasons… normally, militaries … have their own radio communications equipment, infrastructure, paradigms, that they much more thoroughly control.

                You can technically, theoretically kind of do that with existing 5g based home internet plans in the US, anywhere there is 5g coverage… but the ISPs will fine you, or cancel your service if you do it too much.

    • Sunshine (she/her)OP
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      9
      ·
      1 day ago

      Yup, he said wanted to withdraw from his DOGE activities due to the recent news. IT’S WORKING!