harm reduction is a thing that you can support.
Not a chance in Hell Gavin gets it
it will be interesting to see who their media will be blaming since the anti-genocide and LGBTQ+ people will be either in prison or deported or stripped from their rights to vote.
But people are stupid and they DID vote wrong. They had a choice and they chose wrong.
Is a difficult subject because on a personal level I’ve lost dear friends to insane propaganda, and I still haven’t forgiven myself for not being able to save them from it - and I’ll probably never forgive them for it either. They were supposed to be smart.
People think I’m smart but I fall for stuff too. In media, the existing weapons can be stronger than the defenses, and sometimes that’s all there is to it. Modern media makes the greatest aspirations of MK Ultra look like child’s play.
I’m still not convinced memes aren’t a great filter, unless great filter theory is just another shitty meme.
To sum up, people did vote objectively incorrectly. The Democratic party however is not guilt free. The whole system is built on violence, and that grim old tree won’t bear fruit unless you water it.
Yes, let’s get preemptively angry at those not currently in power for something we assume they’ll do!
It’s truly the “progressive” way. That and never actually voting in a primary.
Whoever it is, they need to be charismatic and young (for a politician). AOC would work in that sense.
I actually think Kamala worked too. Her non-election was due to other reasons, mostly Biden’s mistakes and that fucking assassination attempt. That shooter fucked up in so many levels, I hope he’s being tortured somewhere.
He’s dead
If Josh Shapiro wins the nomination I will not vote for him, I cannot stand this nonsense, this is absolute insanity. How the hell are modern Democrats less progressive than FDR (and he was a massive racist), we are a century ahead yet we are centuries behind. Now we’re fighting over which fascist is more palatable so when can whitewash them and call them progressive. I voted for Kamala in 2024 but NOT AGAIN, I will NOT vote for another mild flavor of fascism lite.
If we want to make it more likely for a progressive to win the nomination, taking grassroots action now can make a big difference.
Are you looking to get involved to make a difference in the two party system? Get more progressives in office? Enable progressives to be the future face of the Democrat Party in your state? Then the biggest thing I can recommend would be joining an organization such as the Equal Vote Coalition. Their goal is to get better voting systems in place across the country, moving away from First Past the Post which has locked us into our two party system. Alaska and Maine have already succeeded in moving away from First Past the Post voting.
If we take action now, we can potentially get the voting system changed locally or on the state level for many of us before the midterm elections. Then as we continue to make progress, by the time 2028 rolls around we could safely pick our preferred candidates first and have safe backup candidate options so our preferred candidate(s) have a much greater chance at winning.
Help start a ballot initiative in your state here.
Because DNC are controlled opposition.
This whole discussion has been a fascinating read in the comments.
But does anyone really think we’re going to have another election? Much less a non-rigged election?
I don’t find very much interesting about this conversation anymore. If it can even be called that. American politics is like scripted television drama. It’s quite fitting. Except it’s so predictable. It’s the same script on loop.
The system was already rigged, of course. Electoral college, absentee cancelations, felons disqualified. It was broken before so even if things stayed the same (which they won’t) it’ll still be broken.
I do expect elections to continue. Just much less honestly.
And what you said doesn’t even include the voter roll purges which as a citizen and voter of an actually democratic country is mind boggling that it’s a thing.
Yes, well have a next election. Not because our democracy is that strong, but because trump and Co are that weak
They will try to rig our next election, no doubt. I’m just confident theyll lose so bad there’s no rigging it
“They” being tens of millions of voters in the primaries. You could be one of them, maybe?
The DNC throws their weight behind the candidate of their choosing. And that’s enough to sway people away from the progressive candidates.
Oh no! You’ve figured it out. It’s all true, Chuck Schumer points a gun at each and every one of our heads inside the ballot booth. That’s why they never host the primaries at the same time. /Sarcasm
Progressives also don’t vote in primaries.
Gestures at 2016 Democratic Primary
The one where Hillary Clinton beat Bernie Sanders 16,917,853 (55.2%) to 13,210,550 (43.1%)? Certainly better than the 2020 primaries that Biden won 19 million to Bernie 9 million with Elizabeth Warren 2 million. 2024 was their incumbent year so not worth mentioning.
Who’s they?
A lot more people than the DNC are blaming people for not voting Democrat & sticking us with this shithole administration. It was a huge no-brainer.
The democrats are objectively better for the majority of the population. Science has a liberal bias and all that.
What many of the dem leaders and commentors are missing is that’s not enough. Blaming and shaming people online, even if you’re right which as I covered you objectively are, isn’t going to win the election. A lot of people voted for Trump because they feel left out and unheard. Maybe they should be, after all some of them hold dangerous ideas like climate change denial or think giving underrepresented people’s a chance is unfair.
But that’s just not enough. Being right isn’t enough. Pointing out their idiocy only serves to entrench them and scare away moderates. You might say, not voting means they’re dumb, right or wrong that comment doesn’t help your cause. Being objectively correct didn’t win the last election. Until the democrats acknowledge that optics are more import than correctness they’re going to fight an uphill battle. A very steep one.
You do know that “they” do not pick the candidates right? It is called a primary election and it is where anyone registered in the party can go and vote for WHO they want to be the candidate. It is the part of the election that is voted on by the tiniest little minority of both parties but has the absolute biggest impact on the race.
You don’t like the shit ass candidate for your party? If you did not vote in the primaries then you have no right to complain. Go vote in the primaries and complain away. Otherwise suck it up and suffer, just like all the non voters who are hating Trump at the moment. Got no one to blame but yourselves.
You’re talking to people that don’t vote in the primary. Some don’t even know what the primary is judging by many of these comments.
Bingo
Did they even hold a primary? =S
The primary was in 2020.
If Sanders won that and was incumbent during 2024 primaries, he’d face practically zero opposition in primaries.
Primaries would never happen during an incumbency. I hate it, but that’s the fault of this “Incumbency Advantage” phenomeon.
Its never about what the majority wants. Its what minority wants. They are fat satisfied one percenters and the only thing they hate worse than a maga is letting the little people have a choice.
