Smartphones, computers, and other electronics will be exempt from President Donald Trump’s steep China tariffs, the U.S. Customs and Border Protection revealed late on Friday night.

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    So he’s fucking over american manufacturing of industrial machinery by tarifing raw goods but not end results? It gets dumber all the time.

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    and MAGA was like, “HOORAY TRUMP IS SO AWESOME! see. i told you tariffs would only be temporary”

    fuck joke of stock manipulation

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    In short, Trump admitted defeat without admitting it. The goods that matter will be allowed to pass. China will probably also reduce something on their side.

    To save face, Trump will continue to hinder trade of bamboo mats and sex toys until they work out a formal way of de-escalating.

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      There will be a steep increase in demand in China for the $5 highly integrated 2G modules that were becoming useless because of 2G phase-out, due to everything being exported to the US having one attached to be classified as a mobile phone for Tariff purposes.

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    We are putting tarrifs on stuff we buy from you, because you make too much money on us. But we are going to remove tarrifs from the stuff that we buy from you, because we need them.

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    this is the most dumbest fucking idiot leader of any country in the world right now i swear

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            Crypto probably since it seems they’re keen on setting up a federal crypto system or some nonsense

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              Might as well if the bond market crashes. They basically have to control the entire market and demand payments in crypto. Declare victory in monopoly with USD and then invent a new currency off its death? I just honestly don’t see how you scam the world out of trillions and benefit from all the money. Especially if you completely devalue all the money and investment assets permanently.

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              Do you have any idea how much money the wealthy actually have? The sum of all crypto-currencies put together is a drop in the bucket compared to that. Not to mention that the money is basically useless in that form without someone willing and able to buy it for some sort of actually usable currency.

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                Sure but how is it any different than hiding gold in Switzerland or art in a vault somewhere? Until it no longer has potential wealth in the hyper capitalist market it’s still valuable. Wealthy people at that level are already so rich they don’t spend money, they borrow against their assets, which in this case could be real estate, gold, stocks, bonds, or because of all the amazing new crypto (not fiat btw) technology built around making crypto currency have all the same financial systems as fiat currencies and other investments, crypto. They only need to hoard the wealth. They don’t need to spend it

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        Most of the money came from other rich people because 93% of stock is owned by top 10% of USA.

        Well, it’s your own responsibility to read politics.

        I lump summed into his crash and made good money. No insider trading or anything. Just going against fear.

        Let that sink in though, 90% of your people own 7% of the stocks.

        Trump just invited the ones gambling correctly, it makes him look better. According to him.

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          Let that sink in though, 90% of your people own 7% of the stocks.

          You forgot to take into account the large percentage that doesn’t own any stock.

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        He was manipulated into doing so. If this was at all his idea please show me the proof.

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      What do you mean this is all brilliant insider trading. It’s going to cost us our economy and destroy our world order, but they are making crazy money right now!

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    Nintendo ninjas got to him. This man is completely compromised by the Mushroom Kingdom.

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    Jesus fucking Christ. At this point I want him to go all in on tariffs and actually hold on so at least I know what’s coming. The fucking indecisiveness and Randomness is literally driving me insane.

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      The funny thing is that it’s supposed to stimulate US manufacturing. Like companies are going to invest years of time and billions of dollars building factories and moving production to the US, because of a tariff system that changes every 2 days.

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        He doesn’t care about American manufacturing. That has always been a flimsy cover.

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          With all the interdependence we built up that’s hard to remove and would take decades, it’s kinda sensible to hope it can weather a few years of stupidity. It’s not entirely unreasonable to hope that after people seeing the first shitshow, it wouldn’t happen again.

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            The issue is, that this is not just this one president. It is a population that has chosen him for their president bot once, bit twice!

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      Welcome to government brought to you by fascism, chaos is how they consolidate power. You create enough chaos to exhaust and scare people, blaming the chaos on a scapegoat. You then say, well I could totally get rid of all this chaos if you give me the power to do so. The courts, and the legislators are obviously not equipped to stop this mess, we just need one person with supreme power to cut through the bureaucracy…

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      The randomness is the point. He wants the markets to yo-yo so those with insider knowledge can make a bunch of money.

      Expect this to continue until Trump gets bored of it.

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        Inside a car, Silly. He wrote “literally”, and he’s not an idiot, so it’s got to be a car or truck or abattoir he’s being driven inside.

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    I guess he bought enough shares of Apple now that he drove the stock price down. Way to manipulate the market for your buddies.

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      Yes, the supreme court ruled that any “official act” of the president is legal, so unless the supreme court wants to either

      1. Undo that ruling, or
      2. Rule that this isn’t an official act,

      Then Trump is 100% in the clear.

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        And even if the Supreme Court does rule it to be illegal, the only way to remove him is through impeachment.

        That ain’t gonna happen.

        And if it miraculously did happen, then J.D. Vance would pardon him and continue the grift, just in a little bit less obvious way.

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        I think the ruling could deem it not an official act if the intent was to insider trade as facilitating inside trading isn’t an official duty. But you’d need proof that was the intention.

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      I wonder… if your buddies went long on stock this week, do you push it just a bit higher before the next storm, so they exit?

      It would be hilarious for the Truth Social early warning to be true-true-false. At some point he will do the opposite and only the closest insiders will profit.

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    I would love to see China put an export tax on those products equal to Trump’s dropped tariffs.

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    Even when he happens to make a correct decision, the decision-making process is pure chaos.

    Just think about how chaotic things were during COVID. People weren’t allowed to leave their homes. Restaurants were laying off all their staff. Many tourist attractions were completely shut down. Airlines were flying empty planes around just so they didn’t lose their airport slots. People switched from spending locally to buying things online, but China was also dealing with COVID, so that made manufacturing and shipping chaotic too. The ports were completely screwed, with completely full ships sitting in the port waiting weeks to unload.

    Despite all that, economic uncertainty in Trump’s 2nd term is twice as bad. It’s literally off the charts.

    Graph of US Economic Uncertainty showing it's off the charts under Trump

    Nobody can make any reasonable long-term plans because everything might change depending on the mad king’s whims.

    And, last time things went back to normal because this was a worldwide pandemic and there wasn’t anybody to blame for it. This time, everyone knows that this is Trump’s fault, and that he was elected with widespread support from the American people. I don’t think things are going back to normal after this.

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      He destroyed the trust we had in th USA. Europa countryand business are looking for alternatives, and sure something will go back. But fx in IT USA will lose bigtime, once turned away from Microsoft and Google, they are not going back.

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    Both trump and doge is just the open-the-gates meme

    – Tarrifs for everyone/no government empoyees – but sir, people enjoy computers/functional government – stop most tarrifs/bring back the personel!