• smol_beans@lemmy.world
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        2 days ago

        What makes you think there was a non zero chance with Harris? Anything she said or did? Because I got no indication from her campaign that there was any chance she’d end it

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        2 days ago

        Well, that’s what happened and now you get extra genocide plus total capitulation to russia

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          2 days ago

          If all third party voters swapped to Harris, she still would have lost. Vote shaming doesn’t work and it’s especially gross when it wouldn’t even matter.

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            Based on the polls I saw, if 3rd party voters had voted Harris she would have won. Just going from memory, I’ll have to look it up.

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        That was the false sense of superiority choice, not the end genocide choice.

        You have to consider the choices’ actual effects on the world.

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          Making the correct choice has nothing to do with feeling better than others, it simply is the correct thing to do.

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              If dead people had something to say i don’t think they would be happy about the parties that backed their genocide

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                Yeah man, do whatever you can to absolve your inaction. I bet they appreciate it. Because if Harris was president and this attack did not happen then I assume you’re pretty culpable. But hey- you “followed your conscience.” Great stuff.

                I tell people to grow up all the time. Realize the world isn’t perfect but sometimes you gotta make dirty decisions to bring about the greater good. But you’d rather feel smug than give a shit and actually have to make a hard decision. Hopefully you’re just young and have time to grow. Honestly.

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                  23 hours ago

                  Do you understand that both the red and blue party are backing the genocide? If your relatives were dying in gaza would you really vote for the lesser evil of the two, or would you supporting a party that actually want to stop the genocide?

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              1 day ago

              There’s a big amount of red voters unhappy with trump but that voted for him because in their eyes he’s “lesser evil” than blue and because “there’s no alternative”.

              Once a third party gain enough traction to break the narrative that only red or blue can win it will be a landslide. In europe third parties wins all the time.

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                What I mean is that Republicans are going to do everything they can to stop or rig elections so they don’t have electoral consequences for Trump. Party organizing is going to need to take place outside of electoralism.