Summary

A Tesla Cybertruck crashed in Piedmont last November, killing three college students after hitting a cement wall and bursting into flames.

The California Highway Patrol (CHP) attributed the crash to intoxication and high speed but found that the victims likely died from the fire.

Testimony revealed the vehicle’s doors would not open after the crash, preventing rescue attempts. A survivor was pulled out after a bystander broke a window with a tree branch.

The CHP’s investigation into the crash remains ongoing.

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    Reminder that a seatbelt cutter and glass breaker is a good investment, especially in cars like this.

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        I think the point is if you’re dumb enough to drive drunk, you’re dumb enough to use the “self” driving system while drunk and at least have a lesser chance of a fatal accident than driving drunk.

        The (not) fsd system might still kill ya, but it does get a lot right as well.

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    Imagine buying your own coffin from a Nazi.

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    But there’s emergency latches!

    They’re just hidden somewhere in the doors and you need the owner’s manual to figure out where they are…

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    Finding hard to summon sympathy for someone that would still buy a Tesla after the far right lurch from the owner. I feel terrible for myself, as I should care that 3 young lives have ended, but can’t help but think they were likely enemies of a democratic US.

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    This is propaganda, opening a cybertruck door is very easy.

    First you bring up the “doors” menu on the console. Then tap “right door” to get to the right door sub menu. Then tap “open”. If you get error “tsla3456” that means the truck is on fire. Normal cars don’t recognize when they’re on fire, this is a smart thing done by smart people at Tesla. So then you just go back to the “doors” menu, tap “right door” again, then “advanced” and then “overrides”. Enter the error number you want to ignore in the “ignore errors” item. Now you go back to “doors”, “right door” and tap “open” and the door will open easily.

    Tesla even offers a free “door opening” course that’s just 2 hours long to go over all of the options you have for opening your cybertruck doors. It’s really the victims fault if they didn’t bother to learn how to use their vehicle.

    /s I fear this is needed …

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        i’m sorry for my rudeness, but i think that’s a skill issue. Give it a couple more seconds of thought and realizing a shitty door locking mechanism/system faulting and not deliberately convoluted menu programming is pretty clearly the reason for the door failure.

        you know i started that reply and then i found that NHTSA’s staff has already been cut by 4% cause DOGE(pronounced “dough - ghee”) and now im like yeah actually this might be the kind of thing that gets thru regulators now…

        PS mods, if the skill issue comment is a rule breaker i can remove it, pwease dont ban me again for ‘attacking the person and not the argument’.

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      Well, the government organization that allowed consumers to complain, get the money back along with a settlement, and have the product recalled, was recently “fed into a wood chipper” by the guy who makes the cybertrucks.

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      1. Elon musk is very rich.
      2. Elon musk is doing favours for the cult leader who is also president
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      Are they saying the doors were not damaged and still didn’t open? I could see the doors being damaged and resulting in them not opening. I’m sure that’s common.

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        The doors use a push button mechanism to open. There’s no handle, no place to grip, nothing. You tap a button, that opens the door. Meaning if the internal electronics have been messed up, congratulations, that door isn’t opening.

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          You can open the door by basically disassembling it and pulling on a cord, but nobody knows how to do that

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    Why are these cars even allowed to be purchased? Does America not have road safety standards? Can anyone just make a car and as long as it has headlights and seatbelts sell it to people?

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      Regulatory capture. For the most part, Automakers can determine if their vehicle is safe, as long as they have certain hardware requirements (Like airbags, backup cameras, and a roof that can support the weight of the vehicle.) Heck, I remember some Tesla engineer saying that the mirrors are only on the truck because they couldn’t get the legislation mandating them removed in time to replace them with cameras.

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        When it comes to people inside the car, they’re incredibly good. There are lots of cars you can buy in Europe and Japan that wouldn’t even try meeting US safety standards.

        That is, until some jackass decided on putting too many gizmos in a car without thinking about how you open the door while the battery is on fire. And is currently dismantling the parts of government that tell you not to do that.

        Those standards also don’t do much for people outside the car. Beyond Tesla, that’s been the real tragedy of US safety standards over the past few years.

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          Even inside the car isn’t great, just look at allowing electronic door latches, and giant touchscreens that distract you while driving.

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      It got 5 NHTSA stars for driver safety, 4 for passenger, anyone caught outside of it are acceptable casualties. And as far as I know the manufacturer can self-certify.

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      While you are burning remember alive, please take the time to appreciate the fact that the Cybertruck has a 5-star NHTSA crash rating.

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      Were still kinda being held together by pre-1970s protections, but those are slowly going away, too

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    There are cameras inside the car, it self drives… imagine if it used AI to decide if the driver was Jewish. Or queer. Or just a particular individual who might be thrown out a window were they in Russia. And it steered itself into a wall and burst into flames, destroying any internal telemetry that might tell the story.

    The technology is there. The regulatory agencies that might investigate are gutted. There is nothing but the integrity of a few programmers standing in the way. Programmers whose livelihoods and perhaps admission to the US are at stake.

    That feels awfully thin.

    There’s a fucking conspiracy theory for the nutters.

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      imagine if it used AI to decide if the driver was Jewish. Or queer. Or just a particular individual who might be thrown out a window were they in Russia. And it steered itself into a wall and burst into flames, destroying any internal telemetry that might tell the story.

      That’s basically how the plot of Upload kicks off, and when I realized “holy crap, that’s totally possible”.

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        You’re the only other person I have ever heard mention that they had watched that show. I liked it. I thought it was decent, but nobody else seemed to.

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          Oh, I think it’s great. Can’t wait till season 4 drops. Definitely an underrated show especially if you like near future, corporate dystopia black comedies. There’s also the meta humor that it runs on Amazon Prime Video.

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            Oh, I thought it was canceled. The last season I saw was season two. I should check out season three!

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              AFAIK, it’s not canceled. It just goes forever between 10-episode seasons that always end on a cliffhanger.

              Edit: Ah, the upcoming fourth season is the final one.

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                Four seasons is a pretty good run for this type of show, IMO; at least if it’s as well planned and thought out as The Good Place (not to dissimilar concept) was!

                I think I’m also only around ~2 seasons in, as I cancelled Prime a while back… might have to fly the black flag and catch up on S03!

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          Another good one with a related theme of technology morality is Made For Love, I think it’s from Max

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            Yes, now Made for Love was great. Way better than Upload imo.

            Damn, I really forgot that show existed until just now…

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          I don’t even recall how I heard of it, lol, but it’s really good. Definitely one of those hidden gems in the sea of crap-quality streaming shows.

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            If you can get over the weird color saturation thing, it wasnt good enough for me to have that bizarre super bright reds and pinks

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        Very underrated film. I saw it in theaters and thought everyone was gonna go crazy for it then barely heard anyone talk about it.

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      I don’t think that a lot of the people who would be likely targets for such an attack are the same people who would be buying Teslas in the first place.

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        They might well already have Teslas. They are far more likely to drive them (I think) than the good old boys out in the country.

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    The owner failed to pay his monthly “I love musk” fee that pops up on the dashboard. A message has been sent.