cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/26701576

Scarlett Johansson remains adamant that Natasha Romanoff/Black Widow’s death in the Marvel Cinematic Universe should not be undone.

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    3 hours ago

    Lol nobody clamoring for you to come back lady, you’re the forgettable avenger

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      15 hours ago

      I mean, that’s the negative POV. It may simply be that she said goodbye to the character and has no interest in revisiting it again

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        10 hours ago

        It’s the same effing thing over and over. Same with dinsey beating the dead corpse of Star Wars. Don’t they have any new, different ideas? Or are they gonna make 5000000000000 movies about the same shit?

        • GoodLuckToFriends@lemmy.today
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          5 hours ago

          I mean, I feel the same way about character deaths. It’s an overused trope. Let’s have them quietly working in the background, like a capable spy would, eh? I think comics should have long ago embraced having their superheroes ‘retire’ by simply being background mentions from time to time, rather than have big dramatic deaths and torch passing.

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    19 hours ago

    This is just me, but I always felt her acting talents were wasted in the MCU. Same with Brie Larson.

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      6 hours ago

      They got her early. She had a few solid credits to her name when she did Iron Man 2, but the smart MCU move at that point was to recruit young-ish talent and get them signed on for multi-movie contracts relatively cheap. Hopefully what we all get out of that sort of arrangement is that talented actors make enough MCU money to go off and do whatever out-there artsy stuff that creatively appeals to them and fosters their talents, rather than having to plug away in garbage movies just to pay the bills.

    • Had-Owen-ki-Roast@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      14 hours ago

      I agree on Scarlet but not on Brie Larson, I find most characters she plays to be bland or not move me as much.

      While Scarlet in Lucy, Dark Blue and ghost in the shell really really make it clear how good of an actress she is.

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        10 hours ago

        What about when she played Envy Adams on Scott Pilgrim!

        https://youtu.be/1xcSDYy3Dl4

        I mean it was a smaller role years ago, but I loved it.

        For Scarlett, I think she was amazing in Marriage Story.

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          7 hours ago

          I didn’t know it was actually her in scott pilgrim, tought it was a good imitation. That is amazing.

          Will add marriage story to my watchlist, can’t remember having seen it.

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        11 hours ago

        Neither her best film with Ghost in the title, nor the best version of Ghost in the Shell.

        Not that I disagree with your point. She has acting chops wasted in MCU.

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          7 hours ago

          She wasn’t the problem with Ghost though, at least outside the whitewashing aspect. Probably the best part of it tbh. Movie was just mid all around.

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            6 hours ago

            Just a reminder since people apparently still have this confusion; ghost in the shell wasn’t white washed. The character from book one is described as western looking specifically to be able to infiltrate any country without suspicion falling on Japan.

            We can discuss why they didn’t white face a Japanese person if thats somehow less offensive than hiring for the look of the android body instead of the original body that died of cancer as a little girl, but that seems even more silly than people that had no interest in the series (or anime/manga in general) getting upset about accurate casting.

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              3 hours ago

              You’re right, everyone that doesn’t demand she has sex with a child on screen is a filthy casual. Absolutely absurd of people to base their image of the character on its most popular forms, the movie and anime.

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                3 hours ago

                …if people based their image of the character on either the manga or anime, they’d have an image of a white European woman.

                That is what both the manga and anime describe the major’s main body as, and depicts it the same.

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    21 hours ago

    If they really want her back, they’ll do it. “Whoa, I can’t believe the Russians cloned her, then turned her into a man, then the obvious dysphoria stemming from it caused her to turn traitor and join shield. I can’t believe she looks completely different now!” Far from the weirdest comic plot line

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    13 hours ago

    She’s just so goddamn hot. Love a strong, capable redhead.

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        4 hours ago

        It’s time you started! We should be more open about positivity in the world today

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        9 hours ago

        It’s weird to think Scarlett Johansson is strong and capable? Lol

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          6 hours ago

          Complimenting people is gross, you’re supposed to just quietly shit on them while praising their accomplishments as long as they themselves are flaw free humans.

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            3 hours ago

            It’s really sad how afraid people are to give compliments. It’s not creepy, and it often makes people’s day better. We should all be uplifting one another, not tearing each other apart.

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    21 hours ago

    They brought her back over and over in the What If? series.

    Maybe the real issue is that the whole MCU just needs to die.

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      14 hours ago

      Personally I feel like it died with the resolving arc from Infinity war Part 2, when Thanos got beaten. I’m good to have it left there.

      GOTG3 ended their arc pretty neatly too.

      And even if I watch every marvel movie moving forward, I imagine it as being alternate timeline to the true ending. (a bit the same thing as the zelda timeline with hero defeated/hero won things)

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    20 hours ago

    When did black widow die? Either i didn’t bother to see the movie or i forgot

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        15 hours ago

        It’s probably shameful for me to mention it, but I don’t think that I have seen Endgame more than the single time I saw it in theaters. It’s two very long movies to keep up with and then there’s so much going on that I’m not able to focus on a single character. I think that’s one reason that I’ve really enjoyed Your Friendly Neighborhood Spider-Man. Stakes are much lower and there’s several characters, but they are manageable to keep track of because most of them are just normal supporting characters and not main characters in other movies about them.

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          1 hour ago

          First half is pretty bad. Second half is fun.

          But I hate time travel stories.

          As a movie /story, infinity war is significantly better

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          6 hours ago

          I’m with you … I don’t need every MCU movie to be about the end of the world. I would be happy watching Spiderman trying to make rent while just handling some small time hood.