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    I suppose he doesn’t realise the huge energy input required, and which the US lacks, to produce aluminium.

    They’re not coming back, you doofus. It’s not just a case of relocating manufacturing, you also would need to massively expand US baseload, and that is not happening. I mean, you cough in the direction of Texas and their entire grid collapses.

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      These are not protectionist tariffs. He’s not trying to encourage US manufacturing.

      He’s trying to get other countries to bend the knee, and abandon their right to regulate their economy and their environment.

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        To paraphrase the old saying: Canada can remain independent longer than the US can remain solvent.

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        Someone posted that all his actions make sense if you think he’s a Russian asset and the underlying purpose (even if he doesn’t know it) is to damage US global influence and control. He’s already doing an excellent job of this by alienating their closest allies.

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          I’m opposed to this oversimplification, even if he’s a confirmed Russian asset we can’t just imagine that erasing Trump and Putin will solve everything.

          Fascism has reared its head and it wasn’t just due to Putin and Trump. Real systemic change is required in the politics and the economy of the United States.

          If they just go back to Bidening things up after Trump and assume everything is great there’s going to be a very rude awakening.

          We can’t keep iteratively adopting Fascism, technological advances and the interdependence of the global economy has already made it so this time might destroy us all. Next time definitely will.

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          Oh it’s 100% the case. And even knowing it I’m still playing into Russian hands and now am against America. He has enough support that the average American is just as bad.

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        Tarrifs are definitionally protectionist, but i take your point about intention.

        The whole strategy is a recipe for disaster. A recipe that contains no eggs, obviously, and is served in the form of a paste.

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        Honestly, we don’t know what he actually thinks. I think every conspiracy has a bit of merit, which, through its unpredictable nature, is very destabilizing.

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      Huge demand for energy, you say? Sounds like just what Trump is looking for to help bring back the coal mining industry. Acid rain and mercury pollution for everyone will make America great again.

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    God, he’s such a fucking idiot - in addition to the whole fascism thing of course.

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    He just loves hitting the American beer and soda market with punch after punch to the gut. Even with 50% tariffs they have no choice but to buy our aluminum. Get fucked trump. Can’t wait to read your obituary.

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    It’s like he’s trying to punch balloons.

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    Need auto companies to speak up for Canada instead of being quiet, even if they lobby WH quietly.

    Cheaper electricity and steel/aluminum and $ in Ontario (due to less purchases from US) is a higher cost advantage for Ontario/Quebec to make cars. Making a strategic reserve of metals (at low price to keep Canadian employment in sector) is further opportunity to enhance manufacturing costs, and commitments to Canadian manufacturing that can be relied long term, and then later dump metal on US.

    Much sooner, rather than not soon enough, better relations with the enemies US has programmed us to make enemies, is needed. Only coded references to Asian trade are referenced, but no high level diplomacy announcements.

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    Ok.

    Man, it’s like +11 Celsius right now! You guys enjoying the weather so far?

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    The same tariffs that the auto makers in the US told him to undo otherwise they’d be in trouble… sounds clever.

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    Ford just backed down. Ford acts tough but he’s a giant pussy.

    Ontario has agreed to suspend its 25 per cent surcharge on electricity exports to the U.S., a joint statement from Premier Doug Ford and U.S. Secretary of Commerce Howard Lutnick states.

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      He also is a mega Trump fan, the surcharges were performative theatre. He may have stuck with them, but we all know he was hoping he could weasel out of it somehow.

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      I agree to a point, he should have kept the 25% surcharge in place until he gets back from the shake down he is walking into down in DC.

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      He didn’t, yet - he’s meeting with Trump on Thursday.

      I’m not defending him, but didn’t spread BS until we know for sure he went limp dick on us.

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    Meh. Remember how he made Mexico pay for the wall? But really it was the American public that paid for it? Ahahahaha. Orange insecure man.

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    I love how his response is to hurt America even more, lol, this guy is a goon. How embarassing for Americans.

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        Now it’s because of banks or some shit. The goal posts will just keep moving and because the real goal is to cripple the Canadian economy.

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          And the reason for that is… Trudeau had the stronger handshake? And Trump wants the Arctic for himself and Putin?

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            The net is off the rink right now, Elbows up!

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        Less than 50 pounds of fentanyl. Almost 10000 pounds have entered into Canada from the US in 2024. So the orange rapist can fuck off all the way to fuckoffville and then fuck off some more.

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      I feel like the assent from that parcel of rogues can be implied at this point.

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      He only has those powers because he is claiming a natiotional security thing. Fentanyl is the big scary thing he thinks Canada is bringing into the US, when there are far more illegal things coming into Canada from the US. Guns and Drugs.

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    Trump: fuck you Canada

    Canada: no, fuck you Trump

    Trump: uh… Double fuck you Canada!

    Big Auto: STHAP THE LINE GO DOWN AHHHHH!