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When your president failed
law schoolkindergarden.Here, corrected that for you
Failed law school? He failed elementary school
Oh, sure. Spend billions on moving factories to a xenophobic, undereducated, and burgeoning fascist society instead of expanding into more stable, emerging markets without an unstable fuckwit for a leader.
I mean, that’s exactly what happened with China
Yeah because it was cheaper labor. The US does not have that level of cheap labor.
It doesn’t have that level YET.
That’s also not how that works. China can get away with having cheap labor because it also has cheap cost of living. But the cost of living in the US is ridiculously high. These tariffs are only going to make the cost of living go up.
Yet
Possibly however unlikely.
Surely Americans would riot once they can no longer afford a Big Mac.
An hour of labor hasn’t bought a big Mac for about a decade iirc.
because it was cheaper labor
at some point, eventually, maybe… american’s will come to realise chinas economic growth and domination of manufacturing and technology is built on a far more sophisticated suite of policies (good and bad) then they have been brainwashed into believing.
huawei isn’t huawei bc they pay their employees less.
you should jump on a plane and check it out, genuinely fun country to travel in and you will learn a lot.
no im not a tankie, taiwan fucking rocks.
That’s a dumb argument, labor in the 80s when we started to shift heavily into China was factually orders of magnitude cheaper and they had almost no labor regulations. Now sure they have more protections but that isn’t reflective of years gone by.
Labor protections are necessary and good, however China also has more robust social welfare in general, that’s less cost out of their pocket meaning their wages don’t necessarily have to be as high to have a similar standard of living elsewhere.
Not saying they do, but on the whole they don’t have the same level of disparity we have in the US for instance.
That’s a point sure but a weird and unrelated one that’s strangely boastful of China… Sooo…
What point exactly is it you’re trying to make here and why are you trying to make it to me?
It was relevant to the thread I thought? Just something to think about
Dude, they did, under Biden’s IRA. The one you just tore up.
Jesus, dude. This guy is too old, stupid and evil to lead.
This guy is too old, stupid and evil to lead.
Putin: perfect!
IF US COMPANIES HAVE NO MATERIALS, THERE ARE NO JOBS.
“Donald Trump was the dumbest goddam student I ever had.”
Professor William T. Kelley, who taught marketing at the Wharton School of Business and Finance when the orange one was a student there (source)
He also doesn’t read. Ever. The only book he is known to possess (a gift) is one with speeches by Hitler. He probably hasn’t even read that one. He had also real trouble reading the teleprompter during the campaign trail and seemingly ignored it most of the time.
Yes, I read that too. Not the president the US needed, as he is simply unsuitable for this office due to his lack of education alone, but apparently the one the country deserves, as he was elected despite everything everyone can and should know about him.
Over half of US citizens can’t read over a sixth grade level. So he really does represent a majority of US Americans in that regard.
Yeah, there’s a LOT of evidence that Trump is functionally illiterate. He just scrapes by with telling people he doesn’t have time to read, or having people read things for him.
The guy tweets constantly, with recognizable characteristics such as random capitalization that I don’t think you can do with speech-to-text. He’s a dope for sure, but I’m sure he can read. Maybe he has bad eyesight and too vain for glasses.
That’s why I said he’s functionally illiterate. You can read and write at a basic level and still be considered illiterate if it’s not enough for what society would expect. Literacy is a spectrum; Someone who reads at a first grade level may be able to read a dinner menu, but probably won’t be able to read the newspaper. But as long as they’re not put in a situation where they’ll need to read in front of others, they can scrape by with just that basic level of literacy.
Trump’s tweets are often only at a first or second grade level of writing. His word choice draws from a surprisingly small dictionary, and he typically avoids words that are more than two syllables long. He also continuously disregards even the most basic punctuation, capitalization, spelling, and grammar rules.
Back before reading was really commonplace people could still read shop signs and things, but they couldn’t really spell and anything more complicated than Chicken sold for $0.30 was probably beyond them, but that’s all the average person needed.
How someone can be functionally illiterate when they were born in the mid 20th century is beyond me.
I thought he was against immigration.
Illegal immigration. That’s what he’s against.
No, I don’t like Trump, but I don’t feel the need to let people lie about him. I’d rather shit on him accurately, thank you very much.
Or if you’re a Ukrainian refugee.
See- this is a problem. Illegal immigration means one thing, but people hear it and think of a family speaking spanish in the grocery store and assume them to be what ‘illegal immigrants’ are. People just ascribe anything vagely unknown to them as ‘illegal immigrants’ and want it gone not realizing that most of the time the people they are imagining are here legally. It’s still racism but with a technically safe cover word, but many are hearing one thing and thinking another.
So when everyone is talking about illegal immigrants they could mean completely different things depending on who you talk to.
What they mean is:
Hispanic person who went through years of wait-lists and followed every step of the process to the letter of the law = Illegal Immigrant
White person who bribed immigration officials to get expedited entry = Legal Immigrant
Don’t forget literal war refugees given legal status = also illegal
And the question they never ask, is why is there a multi-year wait list? It’s like what steam said about piracy. It’s not a price issue, it’s a service/availability issue.
If undocumented immigrants are a problem, then document them. No need to sneak in if they can just walk through the port of entry and get a job.
Or, I don’t know, just go after the companies and individuals found employing people who don’t have a legal right to work in the country, with fines that can’t be dismissed as a cost of doing business and prison time for those responsible. If there were truly significant consequences for employing people who cannot legally work in the country, people would stop offering exploitative jobs to undocumented immigrants and I can’t help but imagine that people would stop coming, once the primary reason they currently come ceased to exist. Probably also much more cost-effective to track down and nail a single employer, operating out of a fixed location, rather than chasing down 500 individuals working illegally for that company.
Of course, the flip side of this is that cost of living would suddenly see a huge spike once the restaurant, agriculture, construction and sanitation industries, amongst many others, no longer have ready access to a whole labor pool that can be easily exploited with minimal, if any, consequences. If people think groceries or eating out is expensive now, wait until they see the prices when those industries have to pay prevailing wages and benefits to US citizens in order to have staff.
Unless you provide $5 million, then it doesn’t matter, right?
If the government can sell citizenship for $5M why can’t citizens? I will gladly sell mine for $5M, and I know I am not the only one.
I was more talking about the ILlEGaLs argument. As long as they bring money, no one gives a shit lol. Backwards ass mentality.
Oh, so immigrants are ok if they’re companies?
Immigrants are okay if they’re rich.
And white
Preferably Russian and and oligarch.
Or South African
I thought companies were considered people in the US
Caucasian people though. So it’s okay.
Immigrants are OK if they’re legal (Musk still needs his foreign workers because “Americans are mediocre and lazy” according to his friend Vivek Ramaswamy) 😂
They can move to the U.S. and then pay tariffs to import the parts, and have a smaller international demand for the product do to retaliatory tariffs and just straight avoidance of U.S. products while making their product in a higher cost to operate area. OR they can build a mine, pay higher lifting costs, higher wages, produce a much more expensive product of shitty quality to keep the price hopefully low enough that they can still have a demand for the product abroad, but everyone will coorelate their American products as shit because they cut corners to try to keep the costs low enough while having higher expenses. So no one wants their product. Or they could not cut corners and make a great product that costs so much that their market shrinks down to inoperable levels and go out of business.
You’re not getting it. He said it in ALL CAPS, so the globally-connected economy doesn’t actually exist. Tariffs punish BAD GUYS and have no effect on GOOD GUYS. Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain.
Or they can just stop providing products and services to america and expand in Asia, Europe and Australia
Walking advertisement for Wharton.
Yeah they need to move their forests and mines to the USA!
Trump always talks like a dummy who is fed half baked ideas by someone only slightly smarter than he is.
Isn’t that exactly what’s happening?
He sounds like a toddler who learnt a new word explained to them by their slightly older cousin.
This is his idea of a school in the first place.
wow. he’s not orange in the photo in the top of that article!
his audience wouldn’t notice the issue with this claim
Mainly because they are SO SO SO fucking dumb.
