Please, put the pitchforks and torches down. Hear me out.
You (yes, you!) are a front-runner. You are a first-mover. You came to the fediverse while most people don’t even know it’s a thing.
In the last couple of weeks/months, there’s been an increasing sentiment to boycott the established social media (Facebook, Xitter, Reddit, etc.), due to their rollback of fact-checking and hate speech protection. This has resulted in a lot of new users for a lot of instances lately.
Feddit.dk has gotten over 50 new users in the past few weeks, which is about a +50% increase of the monthly active users, a big deal for a small instance like ours.
This is a great opportunity to teach others about the fediverse and get more people to move to a more democratic, sustainable internet. But all these potential users are still on the corporate social media - we can’t reach them unless we are there!
You, the first-mover, is exactly the kind of person we need to stay on Facebook, just for a while, to guide people over to the fediverse. Feddit.dk was actually posted in a Facebook group a few weeks back and we got a few users that way! We’ve also gotten a lot of users via Reddit recently, as people on /r/Denmark have been mentioning Feddit.dk. Guiding people from corporate social media to the fediverse has been the most successful way to get more users so far.
We can’t get second-movers if the first-movers leave everyone behind. So maybe, consider not deleting your Facebook or Reddit account just yet, and if you don’t, try to look out for people that are looking for alternatives. You can be their guide.
(and if you want to delete Facebook regardless, I totally respect that choice btw)
I had someone post in the r/saskatchewan subreddit about lemmy.ca, and I had forgotten all about lemmy or that I even had an account on here already until they mentioned it.
Other social media sucks for sure, but OP has a point here. Lemmy is still at the stage where people only enter if they are told/reminded it exists. I genuinely thought lemmy died already. People finding lemmy naturally is very unlikely at this stage. It’s word of mouth, so the people here gotta start wording and mouthing about it.
I lately stumbled over a discussion of Lemmy on Reddit (linked from [email protected], I guess), and some of the people in the discussion seemed to genuinely believe that Lemmy had completely died off following the first few days of interest from the Reddit community, similar to Tildes and whatever other services popped out through the years.
It’s pretty fascinating, as I wouldn’t think it takes that much to double check and realize the community on here is pretty vibrant.
I think part of the reason this happens is that the front page on Lemmy is less sensationalist and appears more slow moving, and there are of course fewer votes as we are not millions of users.
Which is where I spiral into checking what this comparison looks like in reality, and this comment becomes truly off-topic:
This is top five on the front page of Lemmy.world at the moment, not signed in:
Meanwhile, on Reddit, also not signed in and incognito for good measure:
So of course, if you’re used to the pace of Reddit, the Lemmy frontpage will appear slow, as if the site is half dead. Meanwhile, seen from Lemmy, the Reddit frontpage looks like it’s a dangerous fucking tool made and controlled by capitalists to pacify and brainwash the masses, spewing out bullshit at an alarming pace.
But yeah, point is, no wonder they think we’re dead, there’s an article from two days ago on the front page.
Anyway, glad to have you back!
Tbf, my first foray into reddit-like federated alternatives was Kbin, and that did actually die.
Originally lemmy just did not interest me because it felt like the only early adopters of it were the CS and techbro crowd. But now two years later I’m seeing what seem like regular people that I’m more able to relate and discuss with, with more variety in content and communities available. Plus, I’m browsing lemmy using the old reddit format which I am still stubbornly using to this day on actual reddit. So now I am using lemmy in a format that is identical to how my reddit usually looks. I could have lemmy on one monitor, reddit on the other, and not tell the difference. Maybe petty, but its a big deal for me.
There is still a pretty big lapse on communities relevant to me tbh, but there is still enough to warrant me to visit lemmy more often. For example, I am a historian/museum professional, and the history communities heres are practically dead to non-existent. Many of the communities I am interested in are simply forking posts from reddit or simply posting news article links. But, I suppose that is the part where I stop being a lurker and be the change I want to see in the world. It is a bit more enticing and exciting to make posts knowing that a much smaller but more engaged community will see it. On reddit, it feels like pointlessly screaming at the void.
Regardless, after two years it is kinda clear that lemmy is here to stay. It seems to have survived the great filter that most other federated alternatives did not during the initial reddit api buzz.
Anyways, thats just my perspective as a completely random not technologically advanced person views and viewed lemmy.
Yeah, I also started out on Kbin, which might explain my handle. ;)
I think one of the best things about this place is being able to stay with old interfaces. Sometimes what we’re used to is what’s best. I would have loved it if the old phpBB forums I used to frequent stuck around long enough to federate rather than disappear!
And we have plenty of tech nerds weighing in with their five cents, so at this point I’m more interested in hearing from “normal” users.
If you start posting history museum content I will be interested in following it for sure!
I will toy with the idea of posting some content on the history communities. For my professional field the most popular subreddit is r/museumpros. It is a small but fiercely engaged subreddit, and I think there would be like minded people that could be willing to make the switch over. I’d be sorta worried that I’d be drawing the ire of the mods there though, essentially disrupting their community and pilfering their members. Plus, the subreddit has been a massive boon to the museum community and fracturing it by having half go on lemmy and half stay on reddit would weaken the field massively at a critical juncture, with the massive gov threats the field is facing with the grant cutting and what not in the US. While I’d love to see like minded history-focused faces on lemmy, I think having a similar community gathering here will have to happen organically. I will explore maybe cross posting both content here and on bluesky, and on bluesky plugging whatever history community I post in.
I think id be much better suited as a normal member anyways. I touch way too much grass to be a community moderator. I already surprised myself by volunteering to create the Canadian Windsor city community on lemmy.ca I plan on handing over the reigns to just about anyone if it actually takes off.
You could PM the mods on Reddit, tell them you’re worried about the direction of the platform, and ask if they want to join the effort/let them know the door is open. That way there would probably be little drama. :)
As for moderation, I don’t think it would be a huge challenge. The biggest hurdle is in producing content to get the community going and to stick with it, which would honestly be too much work for me personally.
Regarding Bluesky: On Mbin (successor of Kbin) these days it’s possible to post “microblogs” directly into communities, and have them appear organically in Bluesky as well. I have tested this a bit, but never posted anything interesting this way. Should try with an image post to a community.
Its something to sleep on, thats for sure. Maybe I could shoot the idea of posting the lemmy-alternative community on their sidebar, and let naturally curious users find it on their own.
But would it be weird to, for example, host such a primarily US and international community on the lemmy.ca website? I would want to host it on the .ca one because I unabashedly simp for my country, but I think it would confuse a lot of people why their community is hosted by Canadians if it is not explicitly a canadian community. Is there maybe a history-based lemmy server that would make more sense to host under? Is that something I could host even? That could be pretty sick and impactful for the history professional community I feel. But the best server hosting experience I got is running a minecraft server, ngl. Super advanced stuff, I know.
I think lemmy.ca would be a great home for it!
My first thought for an alternative was Mander.xyz, but they seem focused on natural sciences exclusively, and I wouldn’t want to bother them with the discussion on whether history is a science.
I think the biggest challenge of running your own instance is not the challenge of setting it up, but to remain dedicated to running it for a long time and set up a management so that it can keep running even after you one day let it go of it. If it gains a user base but disappears after two years, it might do more harm than good compared to a community hosted at for example Lemmy.ca.
That said, I would love to see it happen!
Glad someone guided you back!
I heard about Lemmy.ca from R/ehbuddyhoser. Not going back.
I was thinking that lemmy.ca needs a ehbuddyhoser on here. It is insane how that sub is the most patriotic canadian subreddit on reddit aside from buycanadian lmao