“There are instances where in classrooms, you have curriculum that is needed to use flags such as World War II, Civil War,” he said. “You may have a Nazi flag. You may have a Confederate flag, and so you are allowed to display those flags… as part of the curriculum, and that is okay.”
There are no such instances. Students are fully capable of learning about the Confederacy and the Nazis without those actual flags being present in the classroom. They know this, so there must be some other reason they’re pushing this bill.
Honestly just talking about it honestly and in a non combative way can be a great thing. I don’t find it’s worth it to do this with acquaintances or strangers, but just sharing trustworthy news and sources with people you know. My friends and I share whenever we find good, independent reporters.
Approaching the subject gently with people who are very against it can also help. My partner’s parents are big Trash supporters (even though we are Canadian) so he opened the conversation with his mom softly by saying things like “well, some of the things he said he’d do are good, but look at all these other things hes actually doing”. I think his stepdad left the room at that point so some people just won’t be receptive, but if you think it’s worth it, just try.
But number one, just take care of your own wellbeing. It’s not worth it to argue a lot of the time, especially not with strangers, and you’ll just burn yourself out which is exactly what they want. Use your energy on things you feel will actually make a difference instead.
I had friends raised in Utah. This is true. You might get a week-long unit at the high school, but otherwise, unless you have a GSA club, LGBTQ+ history is muffled.
But oohhhh, they’ll talk about Pioneer History every year in History class.
As a high schooler in Utah, this is true. There’s essentially zero mention of the community even existing, except for certain classes where it inevitably comes up (like current issues), and even then only certain teachers will approach those topics, and it’s definitely not part of their curriculum.
Utah openly promoting using their tax dollars towards purchasing NAZI and Confederate paraphernalia instead of using free images provided in the textbooks and online
I’m not disagreeing with you, just wanted to share that my mom’s high school year book from the early 90s has a picture of one of her teachers dressed like a nazi performing a sieg heil, all for display as a part of the curriculum. She said no one batted an eye or voiced concern for it back then. I truly hope we don’t see things like that return to classrooms today, but it wasn’t that long ago that it was normal either. I would assume a lot of the people pushing this bill might have experienced something similar.
There are no such instances. Students are fully capable of learning about the Confederacy and the Nazis without those actual flags being present in the classroom. They know this, so there must be some other reason they’re pushing this bill.
I dunno, man, I didn’t understand the Holocaust at all until my teacher starved some students to death and tossed them in an oven.
if this were to actually happen, I’m positive some people still wouldn’t get it
They’d just do what they’ve been trained to do since 2016. “Fake news! Fake news!”
how do we combat ignorance in our personal lives? I am looking for suggestions
Honestly just talking about it honestly and in a non combative way can be a great thing. I don’t find it’s worth it to do this with acquaintances or strangers, but just sharing trustworthy news and sources with people you know. My friends and I share whenever we find good, independent reporters.
Approaching the subject gently with people who are very against it can also help. My partner’s parents are big Trash supporters (even though we are Canadian) so he opened the conversation with his mom softly by saying things like “well, some of the things he said he’d do are good, but look at all these other things hes actually doing”. I think his stepdad left the room at that point so some people just won’t be receptive, but if you think it’s worth it, just try.
But number one, just take care of your own wellbeing. It’s not worth it to argue a lot of the time, especially not with strangers, and you’ll just burn yourself out which is exactly what they want. Use your energy on things you feel will actually make a difference instead.
I feel like I do this but definitely need to take a step back and see if I can reel my passion in a bit… 😮💨
thanks for the advice, have a great weekend!
They’re also admitting that they don’t teach anything about LGBTQ+ at all in any realm. Not health class, civics, history, art, nothing.
I had friends raised in Utah. This is true. You might get a week-long unit at the high school, but otherwise, unless you have a GSA club, LGBTQ+ history is muffled.
But oohhhh, they’ll talk about Pioneer History every year in History class.
Honest question: is there any other state/region in the world where a cult has unbridled power?
Utah boggles my mind.
Iran. North Korea. Russia.
“Congratulations” for joining that party.
And by Pioneer History, they mean Mormon-church approved Mormon history.
We should do something about the Mormons.
To be fair, the LaserActive was a pretty cool system.
They didn’t teach anything LGBTQ+ related in NJ schools from the 90’s to 00’s that I remember.
As a high schooler in Utah, this is true. There’s essentially zero mention of the community even existing, except for certain classes where it inevitably comes up (like current issues), and even then only certain teachers will approach those topics, and it’s definitely not part of their curriculum.
"You may have a Nazi flag. You may have a confederate flag… "
I mean, hey, who doesn’t for just such an occasion?
It’s so funny when they call themselves out. Are you saying those two flags have something in common, Trever?
Utah openly promoting using their tax dollars towards purchasing NAZI and Confederate paraphernalia instead of using free images provided in the textbooks and online
I’m not disagreeing with you, just wanted to share that my mom’s high school year book from the early 90s has a picture of one of her teachers dressed like a nazi performing a sieg heil, all for display as a part of the curriculum. She said no one batted an eye or voiced concern for it back then. I truly hope we don’t see things like that return to classrooms today, but it wasn’t that long ago that it was normal either. I would assume a lot of the people pushing this bill might have experienced something similar.