• fxomt@lemmy.dbzer0.com
    243·
    5 hours ago

    Hexbear isn’t worth dogshit but if someone wants to waste their money, then i wont stop them

          • fxomt@lemmy.dbzer0.com
            102·
            4 hours ago

            I don’t know if you’re talking about me, but if so i am not western, and hating on MLism isn’t anti-left lmao.

            • BrainInABox@lemmy.mlEnglish
              43·
              2 hours ago

              Yes of course, real leftism is when you exclusively punch left and encourage spending money to highjack leftists spaces to redirect them to right wing neo liberal ones.

              • fxomt@lemmy.dbzer0.com
                31·
                1 hour ago

                Lol. I don’t exclusively punch left so i don’t know what the fuck you’re talking about, and i said it would be funny, while saying “it’s a waste of money”.

                and encourage spending money to highjack leftists spaces to redirect them to right wing neo liberal ones.

                Get a clue lmao. State capitalism isn’t leftist. Even fucking social democrats are more leftist, and that’s saying something.

                • BrainInABox@lemmy.mlEnglish
                  33·
                  1 hour ago

                  Lol. I don’t exclusively punch left

                  Your comment history disagrees.

                  State capitalism isn’t leftist

                  Oh but imperialist neoliberalism is? I guess “real leftism” is just Western chauvinism.

                  Even fucking social democrats are more leftist

                  Why? Oh right, because they’re Western

  • jmcs@discuss.tchncs.de
    5·
    4 hours ago

    Is there a remind me bot on Lemmy? Asking for a friend that might do something financially irresponsibly hilarious at last second if the auction values doesn’t go much higher.

  • _cryptagion@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
    403·
    8 hours ago

    The rest of the Fediverse should put together a GoFundMe to buy the domain, and stick up a page with links to donate drones to Ukrainian soldiers, and care packages to families of Uyghur muslims detained in concentration camps in China.

    • Etterra@discuss.onlineEnglish
      31·
      5 hours ago

      Couldn’t somebody buy it and change it to force all the assholes out and then change things to make it a proper instance?

      • Evotech@lemmy.world
        2·
        3 hours ago

        Idk how federation works, but I imagine the domain name isn’t the only thing that ties the instanses together together?

        I could be wrong

        • 3dmvr@lemm.eeEnglish
          1·
          8 minutes ago

          nah they could, theyd just change it to their ip address, like the domain vendor deleted their ip address from the records when they didn’t pay

  • Carl@lemm.eeEnglish
    50·
    9 hours ago

    This almost certainly won’t kill the Hexbear community, and frankly I don’t think there’s any way they will choose to pony up the auction money. This community has moved from reddit to discord to the fediverse and they’ll probably just be on their backup/original domain chapo.chat for a month or two before switching over to whatever the admins decide to switch to, and then it will be business as usual under a new name.

    Still there’s a lesson here about setting up a durable online community - don’t let someone control the domain registration with their personal account, you’re just asking for something like this to happen. If they don’t have one already the admins should set up some kind of organization that can “own” the new domain, donations, etc so that this can’t happen again.

    • CarbonBasedNPU@lemm.eeEnglish
      6·
      4 hours ago

      I just don’t get how you could keep trusting the people that run the instance after this. Its like the whole manjaro thing I could never use it because I do not trust the people in charge because they won’t stop fucking up.

  • melroy@kbin.melroy.org
    193·
    8 hours ago

    Just add the following line to your host file and add an override to your DNS:

    37.187.73.130 hexbear.net

    Problem solved, this is how we did it in 1985.

        • Whateley@lemm.eeEnglish
          103·
          7 hours ago

          Hexbear isn’t worth the dog shit I scraped off my shoe this morning.

        • alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml
          81·
          7 hours ago

          The domain name isn’t worth anything, they’ve changed domain names before, they’ll do it again.

          It will be funny that someone paid 500 dollars to make a communist domain redirect to /r/neoliberal or the wikipedia article on economics or the Black Book of Communism or something. Maybe declare Juan Guaidó the interim president of hexbear and redirect to his twitter.

    • IninewCrowEnglish
      101·
      4 hours ago

      How does anyone know that this is a fair auction. As much as the users may be hated or disliked, I still don’t believe in companies or corporations taking advantage of people like this to make a cheap buck.

      Who’s to say that every bid in the auction is being artificially raised by a company rep and no matter what amount anyone comes up with, the owner will just keep raising it until they find a really high value.

      Shitty situation all around and as much as they are not liked, I wouldn’t want anything like this happening to any honest instance out there.

      • 3dmvr@lemm.eeEnglish
        1·
        11 minutes ago

        Thats always risky and I highly doubt it, they could just not buy it and then they’re stuck holding the domain and can’t sell it for a cheaper price immediately after

    • leftzero@lemmynsfw.com
      6·
      5 hours ago

      According to that statement they don’t have access to the account to renew that one either, so they’ll lose it eventually and it should be considered temporary. 🤷‍♂️

    • some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org
      137·
      6 hours ago

      Thanks! Unlike a lot of Lemmy users, I have a soft spot for hexbears. I think they had a genuinely traumatic experience when they federated and their very personal instance was inundated with people who didn’t think and talk as they did. I’m glad they’re ok.

      • boredtortoise@lemm.ee
        3·
        5 hours ago

        Their community reminds me of that one Something Awful subforum with the same style. I guess hexbear is just a younger demographic

    • vger@lemmy.mlEnglish
      38·
      11 hours ago

      They didn’t really move. That hostname has been a synonym for hexbear.net all along. It may have been the instance’s original hostname.

  • Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world
    313·
    12 hours ago

    Popcorn! Get’cher popcorn here! Can’t have a good fedidrama without that delicious buttery popcorn!

    • archonet@lemy.lolEnglish
      153·
      11 hours ago

      I’ll have a large with extra salt, please.

      Oh, hell, and some milk duds too, it’s gonna be a good show.

  • Rentlar
    191·
    11 hours ago

    Sad but kinda hilarious. Lemmy.ca appears to have a better succession plan in place through the nonprofit organization…

  • Lvxferre [he/him]@mander.xyz
    252·
    12 hours ago

    They’ll probably stay in chapo.chat, and instance owners will update their blocked lists. A few users lost because they can’t be arsed to re-register, instead using .ml. But, past that, not much is going to change, I think.

    I’m mildly curious on what’s going to happen with their older domain - or, what the winning bidder will make out of it. (Document bad online behaviour? Make it about NATO to rub salt on their wounds? What else?)

    • OpenStars@piefed.socialEnglish
      161·
      12 hours ago

      Except they already said that the same issue will occur with the backup name as well. Unless the additional time allows the original owner to finally reregister it this time, as they (reportedly) claimed to be ready to do for the main one as well. I think they don’t trust them anymore:-).

      So everyone might move, then have to move again a second time. Not joking btw!:-)

      Is it weird that I feel bad for them? Whoever is to blame, a lot of the users are innocent of this. And are also trolls, true, but even so… It would be nice if some people would learn from this that online trolling is one thing, but eventually it’s even better to wake up and live in the real world. I want that for them.

      • Lvxferre [he/him]@mander.xyz
        5·
        10 hours ago

        I think that the additional time will be enough to let them contact the original owner. But dunno, there might be some drama involved, IIRC not even the original devs want much to do with HB.

        And even if they move twice, the userbase seems close-knit enough to follow without too many losses.

        Is it weird that I feel bad for them?

        I don’t think it is. The main problem there seems to be users going rogue outside their home instance; I remember HB had some rule like “respect rules of the other instances you interact with”, but it was toilet paper. However plenty of the other users are completely OK.

        Another issue is that there is some red scare against them. And even if they use it to shield themselves from actual criticism in a really dumb way, the red scare is still there.

        • GBU_28@lemm.eeEnglish
          73·
          8 hours ago

          They openly idolize Stalin. That’s not from a couple rogue users

          • alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml
            121·
            8 hours ago

            The guy who spent his youth robbing banks to fund a revolution, succeeded, went on to beat the nazis, and helped lay the foundation for the greatest increase in standards of living in the modern age outside of China?

            Even if you accept legitimate criticisms about the guy, such as interning/relocating populations in the wake of WWII, various loses the CPC took due to following his mandates, his failure to support Korea, etc, and understand him as a part of a greater machine accomplishing these things rather than the idealist “great man theory” nonsense that encourages hero worship in the first place, it’s hard not to idealize revolutionary heros like him and Fidel.

        • OpenStars@piefed.socialEnglish
          42·
          8 hours ago

          They did contact the original owner - who promised (reputedly) to take care of it. Then disappeared (yet again, after repeatedly having done so in the past so many times before). It’s even possible that they did this out of some kind of spite? But perhaps not, maybe it’s merely irresponsibility, and even that due to ADHD or some such, who knows (I did not read through every comment, just enough to know this much).

          It is not merely users going rouge (edit: no you know what, fuck it, I’m leaving this spelling exactly as it is, bc it’s 2025 baby! and this apparently is how we roll now) there are posts (not merely moderator reports, which don’t federate particularly with their older software) where they are made aware, and the admins chose to ignore the situation each time rather than ban the person involved. They actively shielded them from consequences, rather than merely allowing them to do whatever. Thus necessitating others to take steps of their own to deal with matters.

          Seeing how “responsible” they are, nobody believes the red scare issue - especially people who are ACTUALLY leftist as opposed to whatever fucked up thing tankies are to begin with, and then like that squared (three times over) and possibly reversed and shifted further into the imaginary dimension, to describe whatever the heck Hexbear has going on specifically. Regardless of political views. imho at least, ofc:-).

          • Lvxferre [he/him]@mander.xyz
            41·
            8 hours ago

            They did contact the original owner - who promised (reputedly) to take care of it.

            That’s important info.

            Perhaps the original owner is so disengaged already that they aren’t giving too much of a fuck about the fate of the instance. I can’t exactly blame them.

            It is not merely users going rouge (edit: no you know what, fuck it, I’m leaving this spelling exactly as it is, bc it’s 2025 baby! and this apparently is how we roll now)

            Stop making me remember a certain movie! Okay, the movie is great, so keep reminding me of it. (Moulin Rouge. Their version of Roxanne is way better than The Police’s original. Kind of like Concrete Blonde’s Everybody Knows vs. Cohen’s)

            But I digress. Yes, the users were going rouge :-P under the implicit approval of the instance admins; that’s why I say that the rule there against misbehaving in other instances was “toilet paper”, it’s just there to get shit.

            Seeing how “responsible” they are, nobody believes the red scare issue

            Yup. It’s like the boy who cried wolf, isn’t it?

            Anyway, I hope that the good ones still stick around. And even the bad ones should get a place… just away from my sight. (Perhaps in truth social, showing their “critical support” to Trump. Hehe.)

    • imaqtpie@sh.itjust.works
      3·
      11 hours ago

      Has chapo chat been federated with us this entire time? I’m just trying to understand what it actually is.

      • AntiOutsideAktion@lemmy.mlEnglish
        151·
        11 hours ago

        It was the original website people from /r/chapotraphouse migrated to when it was banned on reddit but then everyone decided they didn’t even really like the podcast and made a new thing

        • imaqtpie@sh.itjust.works
          6·
          10 hours ago

          I get that but do we need to defederate from them or not? It seems like they don’t have federation enabled or something.

            • imaqtpie@sh.itjust.works
              98·
              9 hours ago

              sigh

              That’s a funny way of saying you have no clue what chapo.chat actually is. Hexbear is the epitome of the blind leading the blind.

              I could never have imagined that certain leftists were equally as stupid and ignorantly abrasive as MAGA trumpers, but you clowns have proven it beyond all doubt. It’s so profoundly concerning and disappointing 😑

              Why can’t you just act like a mature adult and answer a simple question? Why must you incessantly seek to spread divisiveness and misery?

              • AntiOutsideAktion@lemmy.mlEnglish
                146·
                9 hours ago

                No it’s a funny way of saying your instance sucks

                Who is spreading divisiveness? You are explicitly asking if you need to take additional steps to divide yourself from elsewhere.

                Not to distract attention from your frankly obsessive and weird hate rant

                • imaqtpie@sh.itjust.works
                  105·
                  8 hours ago

                  I’m asking if chapo.chat is part of Lemmy or not. Do they federate with other servers, or is it isolated? Just answer the damn question.

                  I explicitly federated sh.itjust.works with hexbear, at the request of your fearless leader u/CARCOSA, and I took a whole bunch of shit from all sides for that decision. Then you defederated us within 24 hours, because you couldn’t handle losing arguments with our users. I have always tried to be reasonable with you people but it counts for nothing, because you just attack and abuse everyone you come into contact with, and you actively refuse to confront reality.

    • Lvxferre [he/him]@mander.xyz
      12·
      3 hours ago

      As @[email protected] mentioned it’s now at $505.

      What’s up with j_s_0e6b87? (Let’s call them JS). If they really want the address that’s the wrong way to go - bidding too high, too early, too often, and in a bidding war against everyone else. A better approach is to wait until the last hours and then try to snip it.

      Unless their goal is to raise the prices this way?

      EDIT: currently $676. JS is in a bid war with TB (t_b_2a08d7), a newcomer. 🍿

      • alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml
        4·
        24 minutes ago

        Wouldn’t it be better to agree whatever bit yall want to do with the domain name and spend the money on something more productive? Here’s a father trying to buy his kid a new leg after Israel blew it off.

        I speak for all of hexbear when I say the domain isn’t worth that much, and losing it to capitalism is a funny bit, redirect it to /r/neoliberal or the wikipedia article on economics or the Black Book of Communism or something. Maybe declare Juan Guaidó the interim president of hexbear and redirect to his twitter.

        Losing it to some anticommunist “left” weirdo to flex how much money they are willing to waste on an internet grudge instead of helping literally anyone is less funny.

        • Lvxferre [he/him]@mander.xyz
          2·
          22 minutes ago

          I’m j_s_0e6b87 aka JS. Linking r/neoliberal? Pfffft, not even close! I want to Make Hexbear Great Again. It’ll talk about the wonders of NATO, and how Israel is doing the right thing (if you disagree you’re Antisemitic and a living proof of the horseshoe theory). I also want to denounce the horrors of mayocide and shitty image reactions, plus insert the Nazi 14 words there otherwise it’s literally 1984. (Just kidding.)

          Okay, serious now. I don’t know what’s up with this bidding war; this shit is weird. Currently the highest bid is at US$710, that’s 200x more than I have in my wallet*. And it’s perfectly possible that the bidders are all doing it for different reasons: perhaps they believe that it had enough traffic to justify the price, or they want to recover it for your instance, or they are indeed in some weird vendetta.

          And if it’s a vendetta it could be for a thousand reasons. It could be anticommunism, but it could be as well some HB user behaving like a wild monkey outside your home instance and getting someone pissed enough to do this stupid shit.

          *R$20, or roughly US$3.50. Yup. If I had some money I’d gladly donate to Karim.