This is the very essence of the difference that should exist between a President and a King. From Federalist 69:
The President of the United States would be liable to be impeached, tried, and, upon conviction of treason, bribery, or other high crimes or misdemeanors, removed from office; and would afterwards be liable to prosecution and punishment in the ordinary course of law. The person of the king of Great Britain is sacred and inviolable; there is no constitutional tribunal to which he is amenable; no punishment to which he can be subjected without involving the crisis of a national revolution. In this delicate and important circumstance of personal responsibility, the President of Confederated America would stand upon no better ground than a governor of New York, and upon worse ground than the governors of Maryland and Delaware.
The failure of the Republican party to support this kind of check on Presidential power is why we’re having this crisis now.
Groundwork for a coup by the sounds of it. When the next election is supposed to happen I wonder if he’ll declare martial law due to some invented issue.
That fucking Lizard Peter Thiel fucking rebooted when asked about the popular support for Luigi. The mother fucker had not thought about what happens when we the people get tired of their shit and unite against them. They’ve spent so much time and money dividing us so they can take it all it never occurred that it might backfire.
That blubbering little weasel. “Y-y-you have to find another way.” I think was the line he used. We tried other ways. Those who make peaceful change impossible make violent revolution inevitable. Luigi showed how to fight back with some effect.
Thiel, Yarvin etc., are all so convinced of their own superiority that any actual challenge to their world view/tactics is completely unexpected. They can only comprehend doing violence to people who won’t do anything about it. They get their rocks off over child murderers, and state sanctioned violence, but cry when the people they want to step on show and ounce of spine. It’s pathetic.
I add the following as evidence of premeditation / conspiracy:
“I think Trump is going to run again in 2024,” he [Vance] said. “I think that what Trump should do, if I was giving him one piece of advice: Fire every single midlevel bureaucrat, every civil servant in the administrative state, replace them with our people.”
“And when the courts stop you,” he went on, “stand before the country, and say—” he quoted Andrew Jackson, giving a challenge to the entire constitutional order—“the chief justice has made his ruling. Now let him enforce it.”
This is a description, essentially, of a coup.
“We are in a late republican period,” Vance said later, evoking the common New Right view of America as Rome awaiting its Caesar. “If we’re going to push back against it, we’re going to have to get pretty wild, and pretty far out there, and go in directions that a lot of conservatives right now are uncomfortable with.”
“Indeed,” Murphy said. “Among some of my circle, the phrase ‘extra-constitutional’ has come up quite a bit.”
Historical note: as far as I understand, president Jackson ignored the Supreme Court in a case of Georgia taking Cherokee lands. Since the state also ignored, the court failed to enforce its ruling.
Fuck these bastards
Dictator
But he said he’d only be a dictator for one day! Are you saying that’s not how dictatorships work?!
“For one day” or “from day one”?
He said the first, but meant the second.
Time to use those guns you’ve been hoarding. Wasn’t that the reason you’re even allowed to have them?
The Democrats disarmed themselves.
Nah. That was to support the Russian takeover.
If Thomas Crooks was two inches to the right all of this could have been prevented.
I don’t blame the kid, it wasn’t bad for iron sights under pressure.
The panic firing was a bit of a rookie mistake but he tried.
Are you sure. We would be getting project 2025 with Vance instead. What’s the difference?
Really think they’d have got in without Trump?
Couches would be cheaper?
No, this could have been even worse, because Vance would have been elected in a wave of sympathy.
I don’t think so. He has the charisma of a flat tire and it was early enough that any sympathy wave would have lost its momentum by November.
Charisma is not relevant. Do you think Lyndon Johnson had charisma? Do you think that’s why he was elected in 1964? Because people liked him?
Well, he had a pretty big dick, so maybe?
I admit I was not alive at the time, but I’m pretty sure, what with it being the 1960s, that was not the sort of thing the general public was aware of, so I doubt it.
Also, like it or not, Vance was already elected to the Senate and had a bestselling book. Even though you (and I) do not understand it, some people think he has a magnetic personality. Just like they think about Trump, which I also do not understand.
I think they were.
https://short-history.com/lyndon-johnson-penis-nicknamed-jumbo-6eba2f1894fa
Choice quote:
When a journalist asked Johnson to justify the continuation of the Vietnam War (1955-1975), Johnson asked all the women to leave the room, then pulled out his penis, and yelled: “That’s why!”
He also called it Jumbo.
Fun fact: 60s probably had better sex ed than the USA does today too.
Journalists were not the general public. 99% of the country had never personally interacted with him and those things were not reported in the news. They’re after-the-fact anecdotes in books.
I’m also old enough to remember when the press had the collective attitude of “let America think that the president is a good person” regardless of who was in office.
Is it time to petition the military to intervene?
Not yet. Trump saying something horrifying while it not being entirely clear he understands what he’s actually saying or how anything in government is supposed to work is what we call Monday around here.
You don’t want the military intervening they might decide to run things in a manner efficient for the end user instead of the rich people!
Historically, this is not usually the result of the military taking over a country. Usually the general who did the coup becomes the new rich person, thanks to all the political power.
Unless they are a person of integrity. Say for instance George Washington, Nicola wanted him to rule, he said nah bro!
We just need the general who removes tyrant trump to be a man who believes in his oath to defend our nations constitution written by we the people, passed down for generations and defended by the blood of those who came before his tenure. I don’t doubt there is such honor still among those who serve. After all it is their oath to defend our construction from enemy’s both foreign and domestic. Our dictator and chief fits both.
When I was little, long before I had a reason to want it to be true, I had this theory that the Secret Service, which is obviously not a secret, was called that because they had a secret mandate: If the President ever gets really out of pocket and goes for dictator powers, it’s their job to execute him as a traitor.
Anyway, I doubt it’s true, but I’ve been thinking about it a lot lately.
The Praetorian Guard killed some emperors, but that isn’t an official duty of the Secret Service. Of course, it wasn’t an official duty of the Praetorian Guard either.
I feel like the more likely scenario is if someone really wanted to do it, they wouldn’t, but they’d let it happen by inaction if someone else did it.
Oh shit, I didn’t see that shooter.
You just made me hope for a second, you beautiful bastard
i want to do than cross my fingers for this. i wonder what the proper channels really are.
There’s no proper channels for this. Either the military leadership is motivated or they’re not.
how do we motivate them?
I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic
It’s the domestic part we have to concern ourselves with, and thankfully the Joint Chiefs seem to still think he’s an idiotic shitbag
They might think he’s a shitbag, but I bet they’re not unhappy with him. Unless he threatens to cut their spending?
This is the step where the cart goes over the top of the hill, you’re not coming back if this starts.
Hard to hear, but if goes forward, this does signal that it’s breaking windows time. We all have a Luigi line, start really considering where yours is…
Especially if you’re young, and they are doing this before you have been able to establish your own career or a family of your own, the rest of the world needs your strength and energy in these moments. Make no mistake, they are threatening you directly, they want to sell your future for a small profit added to the pile they are hoarding. Decide how hard you want to fight against that
Especially if you’re older and know that everything you’ve worked for is at risk. Especially if you’re middle aged and your hope of a comfortable old age is being destroyed. Especially if you have family, and know your children’s future depends on it.
I know you mean well but fuck ageism, the youth always fight. They don’t need a pep talk, older people do.
And then there are the rest of us. Not quite young anymore, but we were robbed of the chance to even have anything to anchor us down. We’ve been squeezed out of the housing market nearly our entire adult lives. We never could justify having a child, perhaps because of money, perhaps because our consciences wouldn’t let us, perhaps because of both. We job-hop every few years already, as it’s the only way we’ve ever received a sizable pay raise.
There is no house, no child, and no job for us to worry about losing. I don’t know about y’all, but I’ve been doing little more than fighting to get by for far too long.
I’m ready to fight for something else.
wanna live forever? do something memorable.
You are not alone, my brother.
I’m ready to fight for something else.
Then do it. Talk is cheap.
Heh. I’m middle aged and the only hope of comfort I’ve ever had for my elder years is chemical. I’m what you call an optimist.
So, those 2A people being real fuckin quiet now that an actual tyrant is in play.
What’s Alex Jones mouthing off about now? This was his thing decades ago.
The objection was always that somebody dark-skinned might be President, or that assets might be expropriated from billionaires, not that tyranny might be an issue.
As a leftist who owns firearms, I’m waiting for everything to kick off (in Minecraft obviously)
Be the change you want to see. In Minecraft.
Random acts mean nothing but support for the other Minecraft team as the idiot centrists decry the violence.
America’s problem is that its resistance is made of a fractured left. Things will have to get bad to get a rebellion going, and quite frankly I think the blue states would seceed first.
That’s because their team is the tyrant.
they want a hierarchy and the freedom to enforce it. nothing else.
What are they supposed to say? If they say anything they’re gonna have the SS knocking on their door.
Might need more Secret Service agents if all gun owners spoke out against tyranny. Like, millions of agents 😅
The Trump administration is not refusing to share power with an opposing party. It is refusing to follow the constitutional limits of a government that its own party controls completely.
And unless someone enforces the rules and consequences for breaking them for the first time in his miserable fucking life, he will be correct.
“Oh, shit, so you mean Biden could have just cancelled all that student debt anyway?”
“Well of course not, don’t be stupid!”
That’s the problem with being on the side of the rule of law: you’re constrainted by it, but the side of lawlessness is not.
If you outlaw dictatorships, only outlaws will be dictators.
Something about in groups and out groups
being on the side of the rule of law
Except when you override prohibitions on arming a county in defiance of the ICC because it’s Israel.
If I challenged you to write an email to a prominent politician, celebrity or business leader asking them to use their access to the media to advocate for Palestine every time you talked about Joe Biden, would you do it?
You know he’s not president anymore, right? And that party lost the election?
Now we’ve got a guy who’s excited for ethnic cleansing so he can open a casino in Gaza.
Congratulations.
You know he’s not president anymore, right? And that party lost the election?
Maybe, just maybe, it is because something is wrong in-of-itself and not because it is a wedge issue used to demotivate voters?
in defiance of the ICC because it’s Israel.
Without commenting on the US’s attitude towards Israel, the US is not party to the ICC so no act is defiance because the ICC doesn’t have jurisdiction.
Congrats! You are the toad in the (now) boiling water. Pat yourself on the back for a job well done.
Even if they are not American, they are fucked as well.
They helped hand over the strongest military in the history of the world to fascists. Fascists do not stop at their borders. They are like locusts, hell bent on murder and conquering. I’m glad I got passports so I can get my wife and kids out when shit hits the fan.
I’m glad I got passports so I can get my wife and kids out when shit hits the fan.
So, um, I have some good news and some bad news…
i hope everyone is preparing for all of this to end in violence
I mean, it’s not going to stop until that fat orange thing is having its brains scraped off the pavement. Hopefully sooner than later.
Hate to break it to you but kinda tip of the iceberg. And murdering trump would absolutely serve to make him a co-opted martyr and throw us into the absolute fucking deep end.
Trump’s cult can’t coalesce around anyone but him. He’ll be a martyr, but sanity will be restored long enough to get some adults back in the room and rebuild the guardrails of democracy once more.
Musk is well poised to inherit the mantle. The bootlickers will get in line, it’s what makes them the way they are.
stfu coward
lol k bud
best I can do is the democratic party going “tsk tsk” geriatrically.
What about a sternly written letter followed by claims that we can’t rock the boat?
What they’re doing as a result of constituent pressure is voting ‘no’ on everything. It’s not having a huge impact yet because confirming cabinet appointments only needs 51 votes, and Republicans have that with a few to spare.
The place it’ll be meaningful is on the debt ceiling increase, where it will take Democratic votes to pass it in both houses.
which it will. the impotent party couldn’t even push aside an extremely malnourished fuckface to get into a building.
voting no, lol.
The “malnourished fuckface” was working for Triple Canopy, part of what used to be called Blackwater. Talk is easy. Taking a bullet is not.
yeah? they were going to shoot the entire democratic party?
