It’s just the latest reason to be skeptical of the car’s safety record.

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    Ok, so instead of the Cybertruck being 17 times deadlier than the Ford Pinto, it’s only 13.6 times deadlier. Wow, thanks for pointing this out.

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      See 1. I’d venture a guess that the first 34k Pintos had a much higher fatality rate than the >1M ones.

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            Can you point out specifically where it says that the first 34k pintos had a higher fatality rate? I read page 9 and didn’t see it.

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              Pintos had an over two orders of magnitude higher mortality rate then the numbers used in the original “analysis“. The rest of this is moot.

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          You want a source for my guess? It’s just basic and logic and reason that would lead one to deduce that they probably were working to fix the people dying problem, and issued fixes as they went along.

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              That was the basis for the Tyler Durden character in Fight Club.

              No, you just made that up. The scene in Fight Club did not name a specific vehicle or brand. He says “my company” and the vehicle depicted in the scene is clearly not a Pinto.

              Ford had to recall 1.5 million

              And they sold >3M.

              E: the user I’m replying to here made shit up, got called out, deleted their comments, started making shit up again, got called out again, deleted comments again. If I sound like a jerk, it’s because they were accusing me of the things they were doing and I just repeated their statements back to them verbatim.

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                  100% of the cars made at the time were recalled

                  1.5 million is the sample size you need to spread the 51 deaths and incidents over

                  You are arguing out of ignorance because you couldn’t be bothered to simply read my comment before replying. 1.5M is <50% of the total vehicles manufactured, not 100%. The sample size was 3,173,491 and the number of deaths was 27.

                  You are fully factually wrong on your assertion above. Your data is wrong. You are wrong.

                  3 fatalities happened in the same Cybertruck, so this is a grand total of 2 crashes that legitimately resulted in deaths. One just happened to have a large number of occupants.

                  Even if you weren’t wrong, you’re operating under the premise that Tesla will (or would even be legally permitted to) follow the same path as Ford did 50 years ago and deny and ignore deaths to save pennies and ounces (it’s a 6500lb pickup truck, no one is counting ounces).

                  There are 3 types of lies; lies, damned lies, and statistics. This is an excellent example of the third one.