• deadbeef79000@lemmy.nz
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    2 hours ago

    The thing is, it’s almost certain that the orange idiot will do this again next month, next quarter, next year, ad infinitum. He’s also shown that it’s mostly bluster, Canada called his bluff and he blinked. So now it’s noise, risk, and unnecessary cost.

    There’s also no confidence that this nonsense will stop in four years, no confidence that another Trump won’t be elected next time.

    America’s burned the last shred of respect it had left, and it’s gone, for decades if not forever.

    Every other country is going to do its best to divest itself of every dependency on the USA it can; find other buyers and find other sellers.

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    2 hours ago

    hopefully this tariff trouble will end pretty soon, and with that, things will get cheaper for both canada and mexico

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    6 hours ago

    Canada should keep imposing the Tariffs until March.
    Trump didn’t expect Canada to hit back, so he is unprepared for the fallout. If Canada also pauses until March, Trump will use the time to prepare and he’ll reimpose the Tariffs in march

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      5 hours ago

      This is the part the media and the economists get wrong. This was never about trade or the economy. Trump understands neither. What he does understand is power. Control. It is how he has always “negotiated”. Find some pressure points you control, press on it (even if it makes no sense or, worse, actually causes suffering) and then wait for someone to offer something and declare victory.

      No grand plan, no scheme, no 3d chess, no deep thought. Just flex and collect.

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      My thoughts, exactly.

      This move was simple intelligence gathering. Now he knows how the world will respond to this threat. He’s far more prepared to do it for real the next time.

      Canada should hold their ground and call his bluff. Make him suffer for just the idea of threatening us.

  • Cruxifux@feddit.nl
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    6 hours ago

    Yeah I’m still never knowingly buying another US product ever again. Fuck them.

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      This is a key point. A lot of Canadians are going to avoid buying American, at which point it doesn’t matter if they’re product is on the shelves or if the price didn’t go up, so there will still be some economic impact even if our leaders kiss and make up.

      Trump didn’t piss off one person, he pissed off millions, then gave them a target. And this isn’t a unique event. Similar responses are happening in the EU and elsewhere.

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        Im skeptical that anything positive will come of this for either of our countries anyway. Things will just continue to get progressively worse for the working class.

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          Tariffs can have certain benefits if wielded with finesse in the right circumstances. Trump uses anything he has like a blunt object. The goal of the retaliatory tariffs was to cause key parts of America pain, rather than mostly Canada feeling the pain of these tariffs.

          As for helping the working class. No tariffs are better than tariffs for that working class, but that group has been neglected or targeted for a long time.

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    Keep boycotting US goods, people. Even if no tariff comes to pass, we need to swing away from our dependence on US trade.

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      I managed to do a pretty good grocery shop today and I managed to only buy 1 American onion. There was a local option but I couldn’t justify buying (or carrying) 25lbs without a plan. It’s a local grocery store though, and I’m confident they’re working on making buying Canadian/boycotting American products much easier very soon.

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      I hope the various provinces continue to not shelve US alcohol. Trump said he was pausing the tariffs. When he says he’s canceling them, then ease off.

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      That’s just the fringe benefit. The real aim was to distract from the plane crashes he caused with his mismanagement of the FAA, and the half dozen agencies that have been hijacked by people without security clearance

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          Yeah, he keeps bringing them up any time he needs to distract from any negative coverage of him or his own failings. They’re now on pause after they succeeded in their goal of distraction.

          Don’t get me wrong, they’ll come up again. And again. And again. It’s one of the easiest levers he can pull or buttons he can press to get massive attention with very little impact to himself.

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    All that noise lol.

    First tariffs on “day 1” , then Feb 1, then Feb 4, now Mar 1. I wonder how much more credibility he even has left on this.

    • the_swagmaster@lemmy.zip
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      Sort of, I’d say he winced. He still got a stronger boarder which was something he was wanting (cause Canada is the problem /s) but obviously the trade deficit didn’t change.

      We’ll truly know if he is blinking if he follows through on the tariffs in a month. I just hope Canada (and others) wake up and realise they can’t depend on the US anymore. They should diversify themselves as much as possible as quickly as possible

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        The increase in border security spending was announced back in December. The only real change announced today is that Canada will now stick the bogus title of Fentanyl Czar on someone. Oh, and the fact that Canadians now will actively avoid any American products. Great job mango Mussolini.

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        For the record, a trade deficit is not a bad thing, Trump is just obsessed with it because he’s an idiot.

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        8 hours ago

        Border.

        And he didn’t get a “stronger border”, he got Canada to pretend to take a non-problem seriously.

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        Myself and a lot of other Canadians have already started avoiding American goods, even before these tarrifs were set to go into place

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      Trump is on both knees taking it up the ass, while sucking the cocks of billionaires as they rob us blind of our government information and money.

      Sorry for that ugly visual.

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        Sorry for that ugly visual.

        You are not forgiven. You’re not wrong. But you’re also not forgiven.

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    10 hours ago

    I know it is applying logic to where there is none but…

    In what world does it benefit trump, project 2025, and putin for Canada to have 10k more troops on the border?

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      Entertainment for his cultists. They like seeing troops on the border. More importantly, they’re tearing down the global economy on purpose so they can remake it as they please. If Trump gets his demands met, he knows he can go farther next time. If not, things collapse and his accelerationist billionaire buddies are happy.

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      It shows them that he’s a strong leader who can get other world leaders to do what he wants. He made a threat, and Canada reacted by doing something he demanded. It’s incredibly stupid, and will be completely ineffective, but the show of strength is the important part.

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      After the announcement of tariffs, world markets saw Canada and China’s markets drop a couple points and the US’s surged a couple of points.

      If you knew that market shift was coming and had a few billion in international markets and sold while the US surged, you made a shitload of money (at least, “shitload of money” from my perspective, because I’m a poorsie).

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        I remember a time when this would be considered a conspiracy theory.

        Ah, those were simpler days.

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      There isn’t. He just didn’t want to look weak.

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      That would also give Trump time to find alternative markets to prepare to reimpose the tariffs

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        He pissed off the two biggest trade partners, already fucked over farmers with China with the last round of tariffs that never recovered, and most of the EU. Him and his idiot brain trust isn’t exactly swimming in markets.

        Also he doesn’t want to source anything from anywhere, he’s stuck in some dementia addled past that never existed where America produced everything and thinks he can do this overnight.

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      Not sure this was a Canadian win? We had to commit a billion to border security and USA had to commit to status quo for 30 days.