If you don’t see the point it is because you don’t hate women enough.
You have to think from the perspective of a J.D. Vance who women (and men but especially women) react with repulsion and disgust towards because thankfully women have better options to get laid than loser bigots (what is the point? just get yourself off at home if you are horny, JD is gonna just blow his load in 10 seconds and fall asleep leaving you there to finish the job yourself anyways), and being rich or powerful doesn’t really solve the problem for pathetic, feminism hating incel types like JD because like, even if you are a woman who desperately wants to have access to money and power you still have to know on some level that having sex with JD Vance would be crushingly boring and unfulfilling.
People like JD know this on some level too, they were the kids in school that when popular kids made fun of them for being weird the other kids would look on not with a pity or a blank neutral gaze but with a recognition dawning on their faces that though bullying is bad, this JD Vance type incel being bullied is dangerous and slimey.
They just want to hurt women for laughing in their face when they try to lecture them about how they are objects, it truly is that dumb and pathetic.
I think that a more likely explanation is that a lot of people believe that human life begins at conception, therefore, consider abortion to be murder.
No, I really don’t think that ~50% of the population is “pro-life” because they hate women and want to force young girls to raise babies. If that was the case, why would they be ok with girls giving up their kids for adoption? Surely they’d want that delegalized too. Besides, if you hate women and want to see them suffer, there’s got to be an easier, more efficient way that will result in even greater harm.
Your comment is a “pro-choice” equivalent of a “pro-lifer” saying that everyone “pro-choice” is a satanic pedophile who wants to murder babies for their own amusement.
I know exactly what your comment is supposed to be. A moral superiority circle jerk based on an illogical, unsubstantiated, unrealistic premise. You’re not supposed to question it or push back against it, you’re supposed to just go along with it so that everyone can nod along and feel good about themselves.
Let’s be honest now, everyone knows what the whole “pro-life” and “pro-choice” debate is about. Both sides think that taking away a part of a woman’s bodily autonomy is bad and that killing the life developing inside her isn’t as meaningless as killing a fruit fly or getting your tonsils removed. But from the “pro-lifers” point of view, banning abortion is the lesser of two evils because the alternative is killing something that they believe to be a baby, while from the “pro-choicers” point of view, allowing abortion is the right choice because it’s kinda sorta not really a baby yet, so forcing a girl to do something she doesn’t want to do just to save this maybe baby isn’t the right call.
This is a 100% accurate representation of each point of view, and any notion that any significant part of either movement supports it for any other reason is absolutely batshit fucking insane. (I almost never make categorical statements like this, but I really mean it here.)
The only reason why I engaged with not just your comment but this post at all is to push back against this “the more radical and extremist, the better and ideologically superior” emperor’s new clothes style no true Scotsman crap. I hope that the people reading this will be able to find some sense in themselves and admit, if not publicly, at least internally where the truth lies in this situation.
If you don’t see the point it is because you don’t hate women enough.
You have to think from the perspective of a J.D. Vance who women (and men but especially women) react with repulsion and disgust towards because thankfully women have better options to get laid than loser bigots (what is the point? just get yourself off at home if you are horny, JD is gonna just blow his load in 10 seconds and fall asleep leaving you there to finish the job yourself anyways), and being rich or powerful doesn’t really solve the problem for pathetic, feminism hating incel types like JD because like, even if you are a woman who desperately wants to have access to money and power you still have to know on some level that having sex with JD Vance would be crushingly boring and unfulfilling.
People like JD know this on some level too, they were the kids in school that when popular kids made fun of them for being weird the other kids would look on not with a pity or a blank neutral gaze but with a recognition dawning on their faces that though bullying is bad, this JD Vance type incel being bullied is dangerous and slimey.
They just want to hurt women for laughing in their face when they try to lecture them about how they are objects, it truly is that dumb and pathetic.
I think that a more likely explanation is that a lot of people believe that human life begins at conception, therefore, consider abortion to be murder.
I think you meant *a more palatable explanation.
While centrists might have difficulty differentiating the two concepts, nobody else does.
No, I really don’t think that ~50% of the population is “pro-life” because they hate women and want to force young girls to raise babies. If that was the case, why would they be ok with girls giving up their kids for adoption? Surely they’d want that delegalized too. Besides, if you hate women and want to see them suffer, there’s got to be an easier, more efficient way that will result in even greater harm.
Your comment is a “pro-choice” equivalent of a “pro-lifer” saying that everyone “pro-choice” is a satanic pedophile who wants to murder babies for their own amusement.
I know exactly what your comment is supposed to be. A moral superiority circle jerk based on an illogical, unsubstantiated, unrealistic premise. You’re not supposed to question it or push back against it, you’re supposed to just go along with it so that everyone can nod along and feel good about themselves.
Let’s be honest now, everyone knows what the whole “pro-life” and “pro-choice” debate is about. Both sides think that taking away a part of a woman’s bodily autonomy is bad and that killing the life developing inside her isn’t as meaningless as killing a fruit fly or getting your tonsils removed. But from the “pro-lifers” point of view, banning abortion is the lesser of two evils because the alternative is killing something that they believe to be a baby, while from the “pro-choicers” point of view, allowing abortion is the right choice because it’s kinda sorta not really a baby yet, so forcing a girl to do something she doesn’t want to do just to save this maybe baby isn’t the right call.
This is a 100% accurate representation of each point of view, and any notion that any significant part of either movement supports it for any other reason is absolutely batshit fucking insane. (I almost never make categorical statements like this, but I really mean it here.)
The only reason why I engaged with not just your comment but this post at all is to push back against this “the more radical and extremist, the better and ideologically superior” emperor’s new clothes style no true Scotsman crap. I hope that the people reading this will be able to find some sense in themselves and admit, if not publicly, at least internally where the truth lies in this situation.