• MakingWork
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    16 hours ago

    With Charlie Angus leaving, I’m curious if North Eastern Ontario will stay NDP. I hear a lot of people support the conservative party.

    Who will replace him?

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    16 hours ago

    Inrespect Charlie, but presently NDP is doing poorly countering PP ascendance

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        6 hours ago

        I mean the fact he refuses to get security clearance to find out who may or may not be a fox in the henhouse…that right there says enough for me to believe that having him in charge would be catastrophic.

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        15 hours ago

        I didn’t say that either 😉 However there’s plenty of evidence suggesting PP is on a winning trajectory and NDP having abysmal chances of winning either majority or form minority government

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          Sorry, your original sentence was quite difficult to parse, it’s possible I misunderstood!

          But yes, unfortunately the CPC is winning at the moment.

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    14 hours ago

    As strong as Pollievre seems, he is still very much beatable but only from the right. All attacks and criticisms of Pollievre have been 100% exclusively from the left, those will never stick. But if someone goes at him hard from the right, he does have some wide gaps.

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      14 hours ago

      right wing learned to consolidate (US, Alberts, and now… BC with Libs just plain converting to Con) Left does not and under present electoral system Left will be in disadvantage in perpetuity. (I know Libs are not left, but they are further Left than Cons)

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        14 hours ago

        There is a difference, sometimes a large difference, between liberal and leftist, but yes they are both to the left of conservative. It’s too bad that the Conservative party does not allow for libertarian voices. I suspect that the powers in charge of the Conservative party are strictly right wing and only tolerate conservative individuals so that the party can keep its prestige but block libertarianism because that could bring too much transparency.

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          5 hours ago

          Through context I’m pretty sure by Libertarian you mean the modern American definition…not the original definition. If you mean the original definition, I have no idea why a classic Libertarian would even want to join the Tories… seeing as originally a Libertarian was closer in ethos to an anarchist than the current cryptobro, I want to remove just enough government oversight to diddle kids and do meth… actually even modern Libertarians wouldn’t align with the Torie nanny state policing people’s bedrooms. The only thing they probably agree on is checking children’s genitals so “boys can’t play girl sports”… Just saying.

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            I think I can agree to some of what you say, I distinguish it as being the difference between right libertarian vs left libertarian. While they both agree on cutting government regulations, cutting government soending, cutting government power, I would argue that a right libertarian has more in common with a conservative, although also some very large differences, than a right libertarian has in common with a left libertarian.