Guys, at this rate I don’t think the revolution’s going to happen anytime soon.

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      “I’m a leftist, and I proudly support 0 historical leftist movements which actually achieved anything”

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          Tell me one (1) leftist movement that actually achieved significant social change that you support

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            i think the AANES have been very impressive in their efforts, personally. Funny how you dodged answering for how you got “doesnt support leftist movements” for defining tankie. 🤔

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              Lmao, the Rojava are a minor movement in a very restricted area, and will exist for as long as the US is interested in their presence in the region.

              how you got “doesnt support leftist movements” for defining tankie

              Hey, I’m not the one denying every socialist experiment in history and decrying it as “authoritarian” without having done any serious study on it, and sharing the same point of view on it with libs.

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                you have yet to explain where you are actually hearing that lmfao. unless, of course, being against violent repression and fascism as a rule somehow insults your sensibilities.

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                  Bringing up fucking rojava, that’s how I know. No support for socialists who managed to change the world like the Bolsheviks or the Cuban revolution, or socialists like Gaddafi and Nasser.

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        Winning is authoritarian. Everything makes more sense when you understand that this is where the opposition to “authoritarianism” comes from.

        It’s how you can denounce movements that win, while suggesting the left uses tactics that lose. It is a meaningless word that means successful deviation from the desires of the West.

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          Bingo. The only “worthy” leftist movements in these people’s minds are the ones that failed, because they weren’t tested under real world conditions. Anarchism in the Spanish civil war, Allende, those are fine to glorify because they ultimately lost, and that way you can keep your moral high ground and standards by worshipping an idealised version of them rather than real-life socialism with material and historical costraints