• Fizz@lemmy.nz
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    No way, tell me that isnt real. I remember hearing a patent about being able to deliver ads over hdmi but dont tell me it actually got implemented.

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        That’s the same thing to normal people. Technically it doesn’t matter which source you are on and you’ll still get the ad.

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          It doesn’t need to travel over HDMI. That to move signals from one device to another. If the hardware that is outputting the display signal itself wants to insert other data into the signal it’s receiving, it can directly. It doesn’t need to send it through another cable. It’s probably modifying an signal received through HDMI (or other cable), but it doesn’t need to send the modified signal again.

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            I’m just stupid and not thinking.

            This sounds like the mental math I did, but I forgot to carry the reality.

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      Why would this need “deliver ads over HDMI”. It’s on the telly, ie the HDMI signal has already been transmitted and now the TV itself is overlaying web-derived images in one corner, the same way it will overlay the guide or whatever when you open it.

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      I totally believe this kind of thing could happens, but I’d expect broader outrage if it were.

      When I set up my LG tv it wanted to show promoted content on the Home Screen and the screensaver.

      I never connect my TV to the internet. People jerk saying they add wireless modems to them but in reality they don’t have to, most prime leave all the telemetry and “AI” features enabled.

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        I’m not sure the picture is edited, but in either case, it would be a lot easier to paste it onto a screencap of the game and open that full screen on the tv…

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      Lmao you can tell no one on lemmy is a baseball fan. This is a meme making fun of the most recent World Series coverage where for the first time they started showing this dumb “Shohei Ohtani is up to bat in X batters” graphic as you see there

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        30 days ago

        American sports ads are wild. They will never cease to shock me.

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          Sorry I’ll reiterate, this isn’t an ad. The graphic it’s spoofing is shown during the game and is relevant information to it. It was just a bit silly and pandering to people only watching for this one star player.

          I don’t know if you follow any sports but imagine if a soccer game popped up a little graphic saying “this star player everyone loves will be substituted into the game in X minutes!” Thats what’s being made fun of here

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            I know. I watch american sports and I was just commenting generally on how many ads are shoveled into the viewing.

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            I think my comment was misunderstood. I dont think an american sports ad popped up in front of someones dark souls game. It was just a general comment on how wild american sports ads are. Sometimes I watch NBA and even the replay cam is an ad.

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    Not as bad as this, but when I moved to a new town I got a free big TV with my new ISP. I was going with that ISP anyways so a free 4k HDR TV on top was a nice bonus.

    I wish I had gotten some other bonus. Viewing angle is atrocious and it is impossible to get rid of the input lag (no there isn’t a gaming mode or similar) so no games with precise timing can be played.

    So now we have a big living room TV that is too good to replace with something better but bad enough to be a little bit annoying.

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        Don’t have the budget anyways. And it’s good enough for the wife and kids, they don’t see any issues. And by now I’m disabled and can’t get into the living room anyways.

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      Give it to your parents or some other older people who would use it just as a TV and buy yourself a decent TV.

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      I usually just assume that free shit given away as part of some other sale is going to be bad or shit quality. They probably bought a big batch of them for real cheap because they weren’t selling so great in stores and eventually someone decided to just get rid of that inventory maybe at a loss.

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    Instead of buying a TV, look for a digital signage display. It’s a TV, but with none of the “smart” crap on it.

    Alternatively, just don’t hook your device up to the internet.

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      This is good advice, but I really wish we lived in a world where consumers could bond together and get laws passed that make this type of crap illegal so that buying TV’s (or any type of appliance for that matter) didn’t involve having to do research on weird non-consumer hardware just to have a nice experience.

      EDIT: some morons in my replies keep on saying shit about “voting republican” and We Do In OtHeR CoUnTRiEs. I’m not american, I don’t live in america, and I cannot remember the last time I set foot in america. Shut the fuck up, nobody asked you.

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        In other words, you wish we lived in a democracy instead of a plutocracy. 'Cause that’s exactly how it’s supposed to work. This thread is squarely about the FTC failing to do its goddamn job, because this should not be legal.

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          This kind of fucking attitude is why Dems always have sand in their potato salad. "This wouldn’t happen if democrats never lost an election :( " Miss me with that shit. Trump is talking about using military force to annex Panama and Greenland and making Canada the 51st state and you’ve got online Democrats sitting in the corner timidly and indirectly suggesting that maybe ads wouldn’t be so bad under them. The Democratic party deserves to get bullied until they grow a spine and start giving people a real reason to vote for them besides “republicans bad”. Call me when we get AOC hopped up on barely sub-lethal amounts of cocaine and she bites Gavin Newsom’s head off like a praying mantis.

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        We do have that in other countries (so in this world), and you’re going to laugh, but the Dutch one is literally called the Consumentenbond.

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          Sceptre is the GOAT. I’ve got a 4k dumb panel for cheap during Black Friday a year or two back. It’s fantastic. No WiFi on it (because it is a dumb TV) but a streaming device like nVidia Shield is perfect.

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        Plus side there though… Like most devices marketed towards enterprise, once they hit the used market, the price drops dramatically. You can get a pretty good deal on a used one.

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          If they were, they should be free. Yet there’s still triple and quad digit prices on these things that probably cost like 8% of that to build (because of slave labor probably), and the subsidy on top should mean they’re literally paying us monthly to have their screen.

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        They are also capable of running 24/7 without ever overheating, no matter the location. And have extra software specialized for signage.

        It isn’t just a marketing gimmick.

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          Yeah sounds perfect for my living room. I’ll definitely pay an extra $3k for those features.

          Recommending digital signage for personal TVs is still a bad recommendation.

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      The smart stuff isn’t the issue. It is all the connected shit.

      There are plenty of smart TVs that you just don’t have to connect to the internet. Then it can’t download ads, be laggy or reboot because of updates, send all your data to the manufacturer, …

      Just connect a small PC over HDMI like you would a dumb TV, and other than a slow boot it will work the same.

      I can recommend TLC as a TV that doesn’t require an internet connection. But I would steer clear of ever connecting it to a network, the remotes have microphones in them.

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        My Samsung tv also has microphones for voice control.

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          Yes, that is most likely what they were designed for.

          But I wouldn’t trust these brands to not misuse them for other things.

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        Take a crayon, jam it in the pinhole for the mic, then scrape the excess off the surface. Problem solved.

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        There are plenty of smart TVs that you just don’t have to connect to the internet

        AFAIK many of them will continue to nag you to connect them to the Internet if you don’t do it. Those nags can be just as bad as ads.

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      Or just don’t buy Samsung. Never had this kind of trouble with any other brand except Samsung. Because of this, I’ll never ever buy another Samsung product.

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      I’ve seen this advice over and over and I have to ask: does it really compare? TVs for me are all about frame rate, and no, I’m not a competitive gamer or anything. What’s the response time on those “digital signage” models designed to show static food menus 24/7 for a decade. I’m sure they don’t have a “game mode”, but what’s the refresh rate? If you’re going to literally pay more for a display sold to corporations, these factors need to be considered. Personally, I got a good consumer TV and just never connected it to the Internet…

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    Oops, stepped on another $1200 landmine did you? Should have researched where you put your foot. Everyone knows this neighborhood is littered with landmines. No, there’s nothing we can really do about it except hand out these exhaustive charts and navigation tools. Of course they need to constantly get re-updated and are themselves periodically hijacked by the pro-landmine industry to turn into a second-tier grift. But that just means you have to research who you research for your TV research.

    Don’t worry, you’ll get it eventually. God gave us two legs for a reason.

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      I’ve read at some other post that some smart TVs won’t work at all if you don’t connect it to the internet.

      Read with caution, I haven’t verified this.

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      I lobotomized our TV after making the mistake of connecting it to the internet when we first got it.

      The ads slowed down the menu to switch sources so much it actually angered me. No more internet for you, you get to be a dumb tv forever now.

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    Looked at the CES reveals and aside from some minor improvements, its nothing but overloaded AI crap.

    Even on TVs from 10 years ago, the first thing you had to do was turn off the stupid auto frame generation, smoothing, lighting, and other effects so you can actually enjoy your content in original detail and correct FPS.

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      It took me way too long to figure out what was going on with those settings. One of my relatives tv’s was like this back in the day and at first I thought it was just their “HD” setup which made me completely write off getting anything HD because of the fake look like a soap opera. It wasn’t till I was gifted a blue-ray player that I realized their tv just had horrible “enchancement” shit.

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      Well yeah, minor improvements really stack up.

      A friend is buying a TV or a screen for console gaming anyway and man, the TV’s are actually pretty decent for gaming nowadays. I haven’t checked out any for several years.

      I bought a UHD LED tv in like 2016 and what a POS it is compared to these modern models. I mean I haven’t had it for years gave it to my sister but still.