Some folks on here have been repeating this garbage as well

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    What makes you think it is a city problem?

    It feels like a city problem but really, it’s the way we drive our community. We live with each other and yet, we don’t really. There is no opportunity to know our neighbors unless we do the weird knock on their door and just talk. No one is doing that.

    It feels that in rural area, this opportunity is more present because there is less people and therefore, you will meet them. In my city, I have never saw my neighbors in a grocery store in many years. From my point of view, that is one element that drive the fertility rate down. Feeling alone and not supported won’t make you feel safe to bring a child.

    But I may be completely “out there” because this is just what I feel. I don’t have data about it and I wouldn’t know how to begin.

    Maybe I’m just ranting about how we are so close together and yet, so far apart. Is this the real reason why fertility is down ? I don’t know and I wonder.

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      Canada’s fertility rate started falling sharply 60 years ago when the birth control pill became available. It bottomed out over the next following years as more and more adopted improved contraception and the fertility rate has now held stagnant for the past 50 years.

      It does not seem that there is any real societal magic going on, simply that newer technology allowed people to take control of how many kids they want to have. Which, it appears, is not many unless there is a utilitarian benefit to having many helpful hands (such as on farms).

      The question, it seems, is: What would the rich need them for?

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        What do you think of this:

        In Canada, unlike many other countries, fertility rates and desires rise with income: richer Canadians have more children. Children increasingly come as a capstone to material and relational success, and thus later in life, rather than as a building block for family life.

        https://www.cardus.ca/research/family/reports/she-s-not-having-a-baby/

        I have no idea how trustworthy this is but so far, it feels ok.

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          I think that aligns. The average dairy farmer in Canada, for example, makes $230,000 per year. The average worker clocking in at a job that forbids children lending a hand makes $50,000 per year.

          In many countries the agrarian life is where the poor are found. Lacking the modern technology we have, they are toiling in the fields, which is something the rich want no part of. But in Canada, with our advanced farming practices, the high capital costs of those advanced practices means only the wealthy get to try to farm. As such, the rich are most likely to be involved in the agrarian life we have.

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            Though question to crack. Anyway, thanks for the conversation, I really appreciate it. Cheers!