Some folks on here have been repeating this garbage as well

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    Oh given the high-ish standards we place on immigrant I doubt they are the ones becoming homeless. It’s more likely to be the displaced Canadians who can no longer afford rent.

    And I think the mental gymnastics required to think bringing record levels of people into a country who can’t house those already here is insane. You want to breed actual anti-immigration sentiment? That’s a great way to do it. I don’t think ensuring the people entering Canada have an even somewhat affordable place to live is “anti-immigration”. Again, just look at average incomes vs rents. I think a lot (most) of people with your view simply aren’t aware of the current rental (let alone sale) market situation.

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      a lot (most) of people with your view simply aren’t aware of the current rental (let alone sale) market situation

      What is my view, again? I think I am pretty aware of the rental market situation as I’m a renter myself, with a very recent contract.

      I don’t think ensuring the people entering Canada have an even somewhat affordable place to live is “anti-immigration”.

      If the path to ensure that is not allowing them to immigrate, it really is impossible to spin this as anything else than anti-immigration…

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        10 months ago

        By that logic why not raise the immigration targets to 10 million a year? 20? 50?

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          By which logic? What specific sentence gave you the impression that I think we should increase immigration targets?

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            If the path to ensure that is not allowing them to immigrate, it really is impossible to spin this as anything else than anti-immigration…

            If you’re not allowing everyone who wants to immigrate here the opportunity - isn’t that anti-immigration?

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              It depends on which kind of debate you’re having and which definitions you’re starting from.

              I’d say that most people who would call themselves pro-immigration don’t go as far as saying that absolutely anyone should be allowed immigrant status, so I wouldn’t call being against that position anti-immigration.

              I do think that most people who would call themselves pro-immigration would agree that it’s understandable that provinces can dial up or down on immigration programs of skilled labor depending on economic circumstances. So I wouldn’t say that reducing immigration numbers in any form is an inherently anti-immigration stance either.

              I do think, however, that saying that we should reduce immigration because immigrants are making housing unaffordable is solidly on the anti-immigration side. There’s a pretty intuitive divide here.