Happy new year 2025…
I’m 2020 52% of Puerto Ricans who voted said yes to joining the United States as a full fledged state. What about them, they actually want to be a part of this shithole country.
They already are, technically. They just don’t have a voice on who their leader can be.
Le Anschluss?
If the US is willing to adopt a Westminster parliamentary system, the Canadian charter of Rights, official bilingualism (or, well, trilingualism, because Spanish) and give up silly ideas like the 2nd Amendment and life tenure of SC justices, something could be worked out. What do you mean no?
Don’t forget health care.
(Charter of rights is a sham, nothing in it but removable privileges, it’s very obvious the person who wrote it wasn’t much for actual rights, and legal scholars back then decried this)
I hope you realize that by posting this ignoramus’ nonsense you are actively a part of the problem.
If you don’t, this is me telling you to stop being an active part of the problem by posting this ignoramus’ nonsense.
Don’t feed the trolls! He’s only repeating this because it got attention the last time he spewed this bs.
I like how he says “Many people in Canada LOVE being the 51st state”, where did he get that? any polls he did recently?
Let him talk as much he want, nothing he can do IMO.
Those are meaningless questions to ask someone like Trump. It doesn’t matter and never will matter where he gets the statement. He just needs to never admit that he pulled that out of his ass, and accuse every fact checker of political bias or lying. Those are the rules in his playbook.
He is manufacturing your consent for the takeover.
Anglo FLQ is going to be interesting.
It’s the same reason that Russia used for invading Ukraine and China is using for it’s threats of invading Taiwan…
We really need to stop laughing at this.
This.
Dictators love to pretend they are a saviour and use that pretext to invade and mutder
“Many” equals literally thousands
Thousands of idiots who would sell out their family for a red hat. all because they’re mad about bathroom signs.
if push came to shove, those people would be taken care of pretty violently.
It was a subtle declaration of war the first time he brought it up. After repeating it a dozen more times, we really shouldn’t be ignoring this as a country.
The United States under Trump is a foreign threat with hostile intentions.
He literally just said he wants to take over Canada by “economic force”, I wish any articles included the full quote/context though.
At this point anyone advocating for or supporting Trump in Canada is guilty of high treason against Canada.
minor ancedote, high treason is a term reserved for people already within the government or positions of authority. *
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I better hit the gym and get back in shape just in case…
I’ve been losing weight all winter so far by fasting. Built a home gym out of used stuff off locals. Next is navigating that whole gun ownership thing I ignored my whole adult life thus far, and signing up for training. My mom’s friend teaches at a Canadian Tire that has a gun range.
I’m getting prepared for hard times, whatever they bring. Hopefully not the USA invades Canada scenario. We’d get rolled.
You dont train to fight in a war against america, you train to fight in an insurgency.
Americans have no stomach for occupation, they pissed and moaned and ultimately surrendered to the Taliban, and that was on the other side of the world. and the cultures and appearances were so different they might as well have been Aliens.
They’d cry “terrorism” every day of the week, but the Americans would be torn to shreds by Insurgent activity on both sides of the border if they betrayed us. Much like how the Russians marched into the land of their “brothers” with assault rifles, and then wondered why people speaking their language who looked like them, were suddenly killing them all over Russia.
Canadian Tires have gun ranges???
They once said that Ukraine would get absolutely rolled by Russia within 3 days, 2 weeks tops.
Never underestimate a pissed off underdog, especially when fealty to the US President is nowhere near as “strong” / co-opted as in the Russian Federation.
Conventionally Canada wouldn’t last more than a week. Unconventionally, the insurgency and resistance would tear America to peices. for the same reason Russia’s plan for Ukraine was braindead and unfeasible.
When the cultures and appearance of two peoples who are each others neighbors are virtually indistinguishable, the resistance will tear the occupying apart from within. Ukraine has the benefit of having Europe on its border to flood them with Arms, Canada wouldn’t have that luxury, the Government would surrender quite quickly, and be replaced with a Quisling government, However resistance against the occupation, the Americans wouldn’t know what to do as they’d spend just as much time accidentally hunting their own people, (and lets be real, if something like this happened, America would de-facto already be in a state of civil war as large population centers revolt against a Fascist autocracy that’s attacking its own people and America’s historical allies and friends for no other reason than plain old fascism)
Sure, but Canada doesn’t have the budget to match the mega trillion dollar army the U.S. has.
However, I doubt they would find enough recruits willing to go kill Canadians. They’d probably conscientiously object, except for a handful of bozos. Not to mention they’d probably get sanctioned by every fucking country around the world.
Hit the ripper and upgrade your chrome, chrome.
I will say that I think a lot of people are about to get a taste for how much worse we can do than Trudeau.
Trump can get fucked. I’ll fight tooth and nail before we become a 51st state.
Start learning how to resist his nonsense now. With Trudeau’s resignation lil pp has adopted an election stance.
The fuckery is about to ramp up.
With Trudeau’s resignation lil pp has adopted an election stance.
Oh, it’s been going on for a while.
I can’t find it right now, but there was a graph posted a few weeks ago showing how much the CPC outspent the other parties on campaign advertising in 2024. It was astounding.
I think all parties have at this point…
Me too. I don’t want to be a part of the U.S.
I’ll do what I can to help from the US side!
I think it’s time you accept your orange overlord
No. I won’t. Fight me. 💪
It’s getting to the point where I don’t think dicking around on internet forums is good enough. Every time trump repeat the phrase “51st state” it gets a little more serious. We need to start organizing irl like, yesterday.
Yeah. We have to start having discussions with our family and relatives. We can’t keep politics out of conversations anymore. Anyone who plans to vote conservative needs to be convinced otherwise.
I hate how vague that always is. Specific ideas: Join the military, annoy your MP, volunteer for a political party. If it’s America that we’re worried about none of the edgelord stuff applies anyway.
I’m thinking more along the lines of we might not be able to trust our government (and therefore military) to do the right thing, independent of who wins the election.
It would be wise to put together some type of organization (reserve militia?) to be prepared for that contingency.
In that scenario, the CIA controlled Quisling CSIS says hello
What military?
If only anyone had access to guns actually useful in an invasion. I wouldn’t even face off against a herd of feral pigs with a legal gun. Have fun with a five shot pinned SKS or an old bolt action 308 facing off a military
Bet you don’t though.
That stupid Nazi fuck may discover just how vicious Canadians can get when defending their country.
It’s not a war crime the first time…
And damn if we aren’t ready to be great authors of the next Geneva convention update
If that were true, it wouldn’t be the mess it is today.
I just hope we don’t get to that point.
It might happen if pollievre gets elected. Conservatives are little America worshippers.
actual conservatives aren’t, the problem is moderate conservatism has been taken over to use as a vehicle to normalize ultranationalism and fascism.
The Bloc Québécois might start getting elected outside Québec to form its own country… with other provinces.
You know, I would consider them if they ran outside of Quebec. Francophone issues make no difference either way to me.
Quebec nationalists spent all this time thinking about Quebec independence from Canada, when they could have been talking about the Quebecization of Canada instead. I’m here for it.
Tabarnak, in a good way!
He obviously hasn’t thought it through. As one state, with a proportionate number of congressmen and electoral college votes, Canada would end up as the anti-Texas, dragging the political centre of gravity well into a Democratic majority. A Trumpist annexation would have to split Canada into two states, Alberta and the rest, as to gerrymander the outcome.
Assuming they have the grace to make us all citizens and allow us to vote. I’m not holding my breath.
At least we’d be a state unlike poor Puerto Rico
Gotta love checks notes taxation without representation?
Don’t worry I think that pesky voting process is a thing of the past.
canada as a state and voting left, all else the same wrt u.s. presidential election process…
canada would have two senators, increasing the senate to 102 members. and in a reapportioned house, receive 44 seats, ‘taking’ 5 from california; 4 from tx; 3 from fl; 2 ea from il, ny, nc, pa; 1 ea from al, az, co, ct, ga, in, ks, ky, md, ma, mi, mn, mo, mt, ne, nj, oh, or, ri, sc, tn, va, wa, wi.
using 2024 state results (note: figuring ne and me would basically cancel each other out anyway and to keep my 2-minute spreadsheet simple, i just left those two states all-or-nothing), and assuming the great commonwealth of canada, now a u.s. state, would vote left…
looks like it woulda been 287 for r, 253 for d; with 271 needed to win.
just adding a state doesn’t change how electoral college votes are distributed, it’s still heavily skewed in favor of low-pop states because states get equal representation in the senate regardless of population. remember each member of congress… that’s house + senate… gives their state one ec vote. that’s why the hypothetical here doesn’t change the overall outcome.
if each province became a state instead… things might get ‘interesting’, then.
90% of the coutnry would be reorganized into “territories” with no representation, be given the Nestle/American Fruit Company treatment, turned into resource extraction zones ruled by Quisling Governors, and a few select urban areas might be granted something akin to early statehood, but it wouldnt get full rights for decades, after the population has been sufficiently assimilated and dissidents are killed.
, they can dress it up any way they want, but any scenario where two countries join and there is signifigant opposition and discontent within the population. it always ends up with death camps. See Russia’s “Filtration camps” in Ukraine.
Make no mistake, America taking over Canada in any way, is something to kill over. because they’re certainly gonna kill you or someone you love.
Don’t forget the territories
oh, i didn’t…
the territories are so small a population, taking them out (to be ‘left out’ like dc or puerto rico, or other u.s. territory–any of which is larger than any canadian territory by population) wouldn’t have changed anything.
but as states, they’d be, by far, the ‘best represented’ populations in congress and the electoral college. even nl and pei would be ‘over represented’ compared to wyoming (the lowest-pop state).
If Canada agreed to become the 51rst state, by that time it’d be Texas.
You mean that country that regularly elects Conservative majorities, with a lower overall population than California?
There is little growth left in the US. The natural resources are allocated, the population rinsed for $2 for every $1 they earn. National debt runs at numbers that are practically unimaginable by humans.
What is an expansionist empire to do ?
It’s not coincidence he’s talking about Canada, Greenland in this way. The oligarchs have been going after Europe for a decade.
These aren’t the ramblings of an idiot . It’s Americas plan.
Canada Mexico Panama Greenland now president Musk is talking about freeing the UK. America is on the war path it seems. I think the world is going to be blind sided by this. Europe should get off of US tech. Everything the US says about China is something they can do also.
Manifest Destiny has been America’s plan since it won the war for independence from Britain.
US deficits/debt are too high to be sustainable. Low taxes come with high health insurance costs. The threat of Russia/China has always been complete BS, but they are not “surrounding us constantly”
The best reply to this asshole would be to openly talk of US states joining Canada as a province. Or to have a constitutional convention with 50 states to decide which 2 countries to form.
We can also offer to trade with China/Russia/others more to lower any trade surpluses we have with US.
I wouldn’t trade with Russia since they are involved in the invasion of the Ukraine. And China would simply flood our market with their stuff and ruin us.
I wouldn’t trade with Russia since they are involved in the invasion of the Ukraine.
Believing Russia instigated war is a lie that make Canadians worse than a 51st state. We are a NATO colony. Canadian media discussion of responses to this is that “we need to desperately buy more (3% of gdp) broken F35s to defend the Arctic, and be the front line on war on China” and futher acts of pure sycophancy.
Canadians trusting our CIA allegiant colonial figurehead politicians and media is core to our subservience. Defense pacts with other nuclear powers is best way to have US focus on US-Canada mutual prosperity instead of their destruction and collapse. 51st state, even with the minimal democratic representation that exists in a corrupt US, while less subservient than our current role, also condemns Canada to a worse collapse than US’s destiny. We need to be a brake on US empire instead of the willing sacrifice to the last Canadian that the CIA wants us to accept.
Homie touch some grass.
If you submit to US empire on its warmongering projects and genoicde, you are doomed to a worse fate than being their 51st state.
So far I’ve been flagging this guy and others as Tankies so I can quickly ignore them. My reasoning originally was that maybe they’d have something useful to say in other topics so it was better than blocking and not seeing anything at all. At least I would know they’re here and not get out of touch.
I’m really questioning this stance now though. They never have anything good to say and are so obviously propagandists. What are you guys doing?
You need to think for a bit: What does a war on Russia and then China gain for you? If you want to know propaganda, consider what makes you so devoted to that future.
I don’t have to play any of your games or answer your new question. We can start and end with your statement that Russia didn’t start the war in Ukraine. This isn’t some long forgotten detail of the past, it’s recent and the whole world watched Russia invade Ukraine. To refute that is delusional and there’s no point in talking further.
the whole world watched Russia invade Ukraine. To refute that is delusional and there’s no point in talking further.
That is the pure propaganda disinformation that fuels your own delusion.
in 2014, US led coup put their chosen nazis in power, passed Apartheid laws, and with US funding had nazi battalions start civil war bombings in Donbas, and massacred anti nazi protestors in Odessa. Russia has been trying to solve Ukraine peacefully since 2014. The only condition for war in Ukraine to continue is that Ukraine must be a western puppet meant to diminish/terrorize Russia in perpetuity.
When you call reality Russian propaganda, you’re simply misinformed and in state of manipulated confusion. Seems clear that being 51st state is distasteful to both simpletons and informed, but for the simpleton, staying a bitch of the US empire must be defended even more, and war on Russia who’s most optimistic possible outcome is nuclear strikes on simpletons, for which the simpletons will still be cheering for,
Calling reality, opposing the extreme political corruption in subservience to US empire’s demonism, tankie/extreme left, is bodysnatchers level of sycophancy.
Like I said, complete delusion. I’m not some empty headed, cable news watching, USA can do no wrong simpleton. I can see the propaganda that the US puts out and how they meddle in foreign affairs. I also see the propaganda Russia puts out, and you are guzzling it.
There’s no point in continuing this, I won’t reply again to a tankie troll.
It’s what actual left wing extremism looks like, as opposed to whatever the US is pretending it is.
