sure, but the difference isn’t maitenance. yet everyone keeps talking like engines are still the unreliable messes they were 50 years ago.
if you want to talk about costs talk about the real difference: fuel cost which are much less. Fuel is also the largest expense after the initial purchase price. I would make most of a car payment just on that difference (and the car is due to be body rust). finding an ev that would replace my ninivan is hard (id.buzi is the only choice and that just came out - I haven’t verified it meets the other requirements though)
An oil change anymore costs at least $50. Alternators fail. Fuel pumps fail. Spark plugs wear, less than they used to, but still. Ignition coils fail. Valve cover gaskets leak. Intake and exhaust manifolds leak (or break themselves). Oil pan gaskets leak. Exhaust rusts. Catalytic converters get stolen. Accessory belts wear out. Timing belts wear out. Air and fuel filters get clogged. There are many more sensors and solenoids in an ICE drivetrain than in an EV.
Yes, the difference in fuel cost is primary and substantial. Again, the article posted is about maintenance/repair costs, and there’s simply not as many things in an EV to fail, or most importantly leak.
What kind of regular maintenance does an EV motor and battery require? Coolant change at 150K miles or 15 years?Edit: Coolant change at 120K then ~24K after that, so four coolant changes.
ICE would need:
Coolant (many times)
Oil (many many times)
Oil filter (many many times)
Timing belt or chain (at least once, possibly twice)
Timing belt tensioner (at least once, possibly twice)
Timing belt idler pulley (at least once)
Water pump (probably)
Various oil seals and gaskets
Spark plugs (twice)
Ignition coils (probably)
Serp belt (likely three or four times)
Serp belt tensioner (at least once)
Edit, more:
Battery (at least twice)
Alternator (probably)
Fuel pump (probably)
Fuel filter (more than once)
Injectors (possibly replace, definitely clean)
… Which makes those irrelevant when considering the differences between ICE and EV cost of ownership.
sure, but the difference isn’t maitenance. yet everyone keeps talking like engines are still the unreliable messes they were 50 years ago.
if you want to talk about costs talk about the real difference: fuel cost which are much less. Fuel is also the largest expense after the initial purchase price. I would make most of a car payment just on that difference (and the car is due to be body rust). finding an ev that would replace my ninivan is hard (id.buzi is the only choice and that just came out - I haven’t verified it meets the other requirements though)
The article posted is about maintenance costs.
An oil change anymore costs at least $50. Alternators fail. Fuel pumps fail. Spark plugs wear, less than they used to, but still. Ignition coils fail. Valve cover gaskets leak. Intake and exhaust manifolds leak (or break themselves). Oil pan gaskets leak. Exhaust rusts. Catalytic converters get stolen. Accessory belts wear out. Timing belts wear out. Air and fuel filters get clogged. There are many more sensors and solenoids in an ICE drivetrain than in an EV.
Yes, the difference in fuel cost is primary and substantial. Again, the article posted is about maintenance/repair costs, and there’s simply not as many things in an EV to fail, or most importantly leak.
Batteries need to be replaced…and they’re 10-20k…soooo…yea.
Recent EV batteries function fine to at least 200K miles.
Gas motors don’t need to be replaced at 200k miles.
Only if you keep up with all of their maintenance religiously for that time. Maybe.
I mean…that goes for electric cars as well. The mass majority of gas cars do 200k miles easily. I have multiple cars and trucks with 250k+ miles.
What kind of regular maintenance does an EV motor and battery require?
Coolant change at 150K miles or 15 years?Edit: Coolant change at 120K then ~24K after that, so four coolant changes.ICE would need:
Coolant (many times) Oil (many many times) Oil filter (many many times) Timing belt or chain (at least once, possibly twice) Timing belt tensioner (at least once, possibly twice) Timing belt idler pulley (at least once) Water pump (probably) Various oil seals and gaskets Spark plugs (twice) Ignition coils (probably) Serp belt (likely three or four times) Serp belt tensioner (at least once)
Edit, more:
Battery (at least twice) Alternator (probably) Fuel pump (probably) Fuel filter (more than once) Injectors (possibly replace, definitely clean)