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I’m on both sides of this. Had an EV for nearly 4 years and had to go back to gas for work (construction, moving/having tools, materials and supplies).
I cannot wait for an affordable small ev pickup. Even a not that affordable one. I just can’t do $100k for an oversized monster like the Lightning. But give me a $60k Ranger/Frontier style (basically the smallest truck they make these days, without a full SUV on the front) and 500km range and I’m in.
I think ford forgot that Truck makers went big on chassis sizes is for the exemptions for fuel economy signed into law a decade ago.
They could have made a ford ranger EV that was normal truck size from the old days. They went against that because of mentality of current truck drivers. At the same time, the truck drivers who want EV trucks probably aren’t driving the 3 gpm monsters they sell today.
If you’re loud enough on social media, you might get your modest size EV truck in 3-5 years.
I mean, I can’t get rid of my S10 because there’s no new truck on the market today sufficiently small enough to allow me to compensate for my enormous penis.
Elon Musk is doing everything possible to sabotage the world’s transition to EVs.
In his new position as president Musk is looking to end funding for EVs and pivot his company to hydrogen fuel because they realized they can’t maintain a fuel racket like with oil if they allow people to swap to EVs.
The real EV boom will be when China’s EV prices start to beat American EV prices despite the 100% tariff.
Currently China is the only country who seems to be actually pusbing EVs in a practical way.
Hopefully China will do something about the slave shops they call factories before they start making anything in Europe. A great fucking example of a worker’s paradise.
Once upon a time I knew someone with a small contracting business. Needed to move sheets of plywood and tools and whatnot around town. Anyway, fed up with one of the pick ups breaking down, he wound up at a used dealer to replace it. He ended up leaving with a wagon instead of a truck, and later on replaced the other trucks he had with wagons. Seems to be a win, it’s been about a decade now.
I got the Kia Soul EV for that reason. That poor little “SUV” had more 2*4 and assorted furniture and metal in it that probably 99% of other Souls ever do in their lives. The roof carpet was trashed, the side wall plastic was shaved and scraped, the back of the seats were ripped…
It’s true even my smaller truck does almost all I need and is overkill 30% of the time. But you have to be flexible.
I can’t wait to replace our service vans with EV. Fuel costs are a killer, as is the downtime from servicing, not to mention the cost of brake pads and rotors which chew out semi regularly due to the weight we carry.
Unfortunately the only electric vans have terrible range when empty, and far worse when fully loaded. 250k is insufficient.
I’d probably settle for a hybrid, BYD Shark style. Something with a big enough battery for urban use, and a little petrol motor on board to give you range when you actually need it.
I heard the Toyota has planned on bringing in the Stout small pickup as a hybrid. We might get one of those in a few years once our Tacoma is too expensive to fill up.
I’ll keep my eyes out. My other half has a Tacoma and loves it. I don’t really but it’s still one of the smallest you can get these days and it has been reliable.
If you are in the states then you will have to wait until they remove the chicken tax or you will never get an imported small pickup truck and neither will I up in Canada as our market is too small without the USA having the models too.
I’m in Canada, I do t think even a used bare bones Lightning is $50k CAD. I’ll take a look though because last time I checked prices was in the spring. But it’s still too big for my parking situation and a danger to pedestrians. I need a truck not an SUV with an exposed trunk.
All my gas vehicles have had the gas door on the outside of the car, and I don’t have a full time assistant to go out and operate the pumps, sadly. It’s an embarrassment.
But given the choice, would you prefer to go to a convenience store 1-2 times a week and place your phone on a charging mat for 5 minutes? Or do you prefer just plugging it in at home before bed?
People don’t realize how archaic something is because there has never been another way to do it.
I’m on both sides of this. Had an EV for nearly 4 years and had to go back to gas for work (construction, moving/having tools, materials and supplies).
I cannot wait for an affordable small ev pickup. Even a not that affordable one. I just can’t do $100k for an oversized monster like the Lightning. But give me a $60k Ranger/Frontier style (basically the smallest truck they make these days, without a full SUV on the front) and 500km range and I’m in.
I hate getting gas. I hate it so much.
People always forget that when you leave home with an EV, you always have a full “tank”.
I think ford forgot that Truck makers went big on chassis sizes is for the exemptions for fuel economy signed into law a decade ago.
They could have made a ford ranger EV that was normal truck size from the old days. They went against that because of mentality of current truck drivers. At the same time, the truck drivers who want EV trucks probably aren’t driving the 3 gpm monsters they sell today.
If you’re loud enough on social media, you might get your modest size EV truck in 3-5 years.
I mean, I can’t get rid of my S10 because there’s no new truck on the market today sufficiently small enough to allow me to compensate for my enormous penis.
Ford made the much smaller Maverick truck starting in 2022. It was a hybrid, not an EV, but they definitely are looking into that market.
If someone made an ev kei truck that wasn’t shit, I’d be so happy.
Elon Musk is doing everything possible to sabotage the world’s transition to EVs.
In his new position as president Musk is looking to end funding for EVs and pivot his company to hydrogen fuel because they realized they can’t maintain a fuel racket like with oil if they allow people to swap to EVs.
The real EV boom will be when China’s EV prices start to beat American EV prices despite the 100% tariff.
Currently China is the only country who seems to be actually pusbing EVs in a practical way.
Oh wow, moving from the tech that works to something Honda desperately tried and failed to make catch on. Good plan
Hopefully China will do something about the slave shops they call factories before they start making anything in Europe. A great fucking example of a worker’s paradise.
Once upon a time I knew someone with a small contracting business. Needed to move sheets of plywood and tools and whatnot around town. Anyway, fed up with one of the pick ups breaking down, he wound up at a used dealer to replace it. He ended up leaving with a wagon instead of a truck, and later on replaced the other trucks he had with wagons. Seems to be a win, it’s been about a decade now.
I got the Kia Soul EV for that reason. That poor little “SUV” had more 2*4 and assorted furniture and metal in it that probably 99% of other Souls ever do in their lives. The roof carpet was trashed, the side wall plastic was shaved and scraped, the back of the seats were ripped…
It’s true even my smaller truck does almost all I need and is overkill 30% of the time. But you have to be flexible.
I always enjoy hearing of people that use their vehicles as the tools they are. Cheers.
Why do specifically need a pickup?
I can’t wait to replace our service vans with EV. Fuel costs are a killer, as is the downtime from servicing, not to mention the cost of brake pads and rotors which chew out semi regularly due to the weight we carry.
Unfortunately the only electric vans have terrible range when empty, and far worse when fully loaded. 250k is insufficient.
I’d probably settle for a hybrid, BYD Shark style. Something with a big enough battery for urban use, and a little petrol motor on board to give you range when you actually need it.
I heard the Toyota has planned on bringing in the Stout small pickup as a hybrid. We might get one of those in a few years once our Tacoma is too expensive to fill up.
I’ll keep my eyes out. My other half has a Tacoma and loves it. I don’t really but it’s still one of the smallest you can get these days and it has been reliable.
The day Toyota brings the Hilux Champ is the day I buy a truck
If you are in the states then you will have to wait until they remove the chicken tax or you will never get an imported small pickup truck and neither will I up in Canada as our market is too small without the USA having the models too.
Couldn’t agree more. I’m considering the hybrid ones from ford, but I’d be most happy with a full EV ranger
Lightning is like $50k now. But yeah I get it. I just saw one of the 43574 Chinese brands made a small truck.
I’m in Canada, I do t think even a used bare bones Lightning is $50k CAD. I’ll take a look though because last time I checked prices was in the spring. But it’s still too big for my parking situation and a danger to pedestrians. I need a truck not an SUV with an exposed trunk.
I honestly can’t fathom what you hate so much about sitting in your car for 5 minutes while you fill up.
All my gas vehicles have had the gas door on the outside of the car, and I don’t have a full time assistant to go out and operate the pumps, sadly. It’s an embarrassment.
But given the choice, would you prefer to go to a convenience store 1-2 times a week and place your phone on a charging mat for 5 minutes? Or do you prefer just plugging it in at home before bed?
People don’t realize how archaic something is because there has never been another way to do it.