• Flying Squid@lemmy.world
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      I honestly believe poverty has risen from just above 40% to around 60% since Milei started his austerity measures.

      People are dying.

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        53% is not “around 60”. Moreover,

        today Milei has a stable approval rating of 50 percent.

        Apparently even some of those in poverty agree with his reforms.

        I think people who only started paying attention to Argentina since he got elected should review the past few decades of history.

        Im also not saying he’s great but he is at least making some needed reform. We’ll see if it continues. He definitely has an attitude and zeal that could push it too far but at this point it has helped.

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        Repeated your unsourced claim that people are dying does not make it true, and nice dodging the question.

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                Nice straw man. I never made that claim. I simply asked you to explain why you think inflation is better for the poor than the current situation, which you have clearly expressed you do.

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                  Because in the current situation, people are getting poorer and children are dying more.

                  So clearly it was better before Milei started his libertarian shit.

                  Less dead children equals better. I’m not sure why you’re suggesting otherwise.

                  Milei’s libertarianism, which is what I have been criticizing this whole time, is killing people.

                  I showed you evidence of that and you’re just pretending I never did now, which is quite dishonest. Especially after you criticized me for not providing any.

                  Are you going to start discussing in good faith or should we just end this? You could start by acknowledging what I said about more children dying now than before when inflation was higher. Then you can justify that.

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                    1 hour ago

                    From the article you linked

                    it also provides a worrying forecast of what could happen if the situation is prolonged

                    Do you understand what a forecast is?

                    On the other hand, “mortality among children aged under one year old was 8.4 in 2022 – one of the lowest values in recorded history,” said the observatory. “However, it has remained stagnant at this value over the last few years, between 2018 and 2022.”

                    Your claim is unsubstantiated but plausible.

                    There is as yet no evidence of increased child mortality (yet) and seeking to paint those you disagree with as child killing monsters and ignoring the longer term benefits of a stronger economy, reduced poverty and by your own claims, reduced child mortality is naive at best.

                    Long term fixing the Argentinian economy would result in better quality of life and reduced child mortality.

                    Allowing high inflation to continue would prevent that progress and long term result in more dead children.