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    Irrespective of his merit or accomplisments as PM its clear the party needs a rebranding and there is only one pathway forward in that regard. .

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      yes, i will be voting liberal come the election, but i know the conservatives will win

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    I actually think he's done a not terrible job but come on, the country clearly wants someone else. Don't make us stand awkwardly in the hopes JT gets the hint.

    I actually think he’s done a not terrible job but come on, the country clearly wants someone else. Don’t make us stand awkwardly in the hopes JT gets the hint.

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      he’s done a not terrible job

      TrudeauMeter has ACTUAL NUMBERS

      but come on[;] the country clearly wants someone else.

      You spell “the conservatives have finally convinced people that Hair Guy Bad” strangely. It’s been their only consistent message through 3 (4?) of their own leaders-du-jour, and it’s also the only coherent part of their platform.

      If that’s Canada, then we deserve the face-leopards.

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        Almost every incumbent government has been thrown out or been severely diminished after post covid inflation, I wouldn’t give the Conservatives all that much credit.

        And Trudeau is unlikely to be an exception to the anti incumbent fury across the globe. Liberals are losing stronghold/safe seats, 338 is predicting an absolute blood bath and the party is in chaos.

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          No, no, the next election will clearly be a manufactured referendum on hair, the Liberals would be doing just fine if Poilievre wasn’t calling people names /s

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        Agreed. I don’t want the Conservatives to win but if we’re going to a trade war with America, I’d like to have a functional government that can credibly talk about their future plans asap.

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          functional government that can credibly talk about their future plans asap.

          Of the two parties that can take this election, that’s not gonna be Bitcoin Milhouse’s bunch of elitists.

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    Show me the line that says “costs carried from the Armed Karen Blockade and its cleanup and investigation and prosecution” and I can do the math from there.

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    If Singh doesn’t call an election then he is the biggest grifter in parliament

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      Sing does not want an election. He wants a Liberal leadership change. An election now would put the Cons in charge and he does not want that.

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      Singh won’t and he needs to step down, He’s not a good fit for the NDP.

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        If Singh calls for an election now, the CPC wins a majority. I don’t see any reason why he would want that to happen.

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          Similarly if he doesn’t resign we get a CPC majority

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            Similarly if he doesn’t resign we get a CPC majority

            There is no way Mr Singh resigning or not resigning affects this outcome. Whether he leads the Oranges or not, there’s no way he can –

            Wait. Please say Mulcair was convinced to run the show again.

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        Yeah if they don’t replace him with a populist then it’s a conservative majority coming soon

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          if they don’t replace him with a populist then it’s a conservative majority coming soon

          So the Reds replace Justin with some populist scumbag, or canada will elect a bunch of populist scumbags? Fuck, are we ever dumb.

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            I always feel a little confused by people using “populism” as a bad thing. The literal definition is “appealing to the masses who feel their concerns are being ignored by those in power.” That is a good thing, provided they aren’t lying about their goals. Cost of living is going up and corporations are raking in record profits, homelessness is on the rise, etc. These are all problems that I feel could be addressed better by non neoliberal policies that actually don’t further entrench those in power.

            Populism by itself isn’t bad.

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              I think populism is more accurately defined in its rhetoric against a “group of elites” that must be fought. Sometimes that’s based in reality, sometimes it isn’t. Trump’s brand of populism, for example, pushes this idea of a group of out of touch pedophilic liberal elites who want open borders and who want to redefine traditional gender and sexual roles. The Bernie Sanders style leftist populism defines the group of elites as the billionaire business class controlling the economic system of America such that they avoid taxes and write laws through legalized bribery. I would argue that Bernie’s populism is based in reality and Trump’s is based in exaggeration and fear mongering. But that’s my take as someone who leans left.

              In both cases the populism itself is appealing to the masses, yes, but it’s specifically appealing to them by drawing clear lines around an enemy that needs to be fought. Trump’s exaggeration of this enemy is where populism becomes dangerous. As someone who has recently been studying the French revolution, I can also point to that as a great example of populism that started with an accurately defined enemy (monarchy) and over time morphed into something that was really just vague calls of “treason” aimed at anyone and everyone who could be made the subject of ill defined conspiracy theories. Populism can be a powerful force for good when the enemy is real and the ideology is clear, but it can be just as powerful a force for evil when the lines are obscured or invented whole cloth.

              So the question in this case is who the enemy is. Who would a populist replacement for Trudeau be fighting and how would they define their ideology?

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        The fact he won’t call an election shows me he is only in it for the pension.

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          This is such a silly talking point, I can’t believe folks are actually parroting it seriously.

          Do y’all really not understand that he gets a pension if he keeps his deep orange seat next election? Just mind numbingly silly.

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            If he loses his seat does he? He’s not going to win his seat again and he knows this

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              He’s not going to win his seat again and he knows this

              What on Earth are you basing that on?

              Burnaby South is an NDP stronghold, last election Sing won by ten points, with the Liberals in 2nd.

              Even in what was basically a bloodbath for the BC provincial NDP this year, the NDP swept all the Burnaby ridings.

              And his seat has been redistricted so as the leader of the party, he’ll be put in a nearby safe seat.

              So I ask you, where on Earth are you getting this silliness from?