Meta is asking California Attorney General Rob Bonta to block OpenAI’s planned transition from a non-profit to for-profit entity.
In a letter sent to Bonta’s office this week, Meta says that OpenAI “should not be allowed to flout the law by taking and reappropriating assets it built as a charity and using them for potentially enormous private gains.”
The letter, which was first reported on by The Wall Street Journal and you can read in full below, goes so far as to say that Meta believes Elon Musk is “qualified and well positioned to represent the interests of Californians in this matter.” Meta supporting Musk’s fight against OpenAI is notable given that Musk and Mark Zuckerberg were talking about literally fighting in a cage match just last year.
don’t just block them. force all AI companies that use online content for research to move to a nonprofit and require them to provide their source code openly.
tax payer dollars paid to create that content so that means that AI is tax payer bought.
don’t like it? train your models on a closed network that’s behind a paywall.
Meta sucks, but here they are very right
Ironic they are demanding government regulation / interdiction.
Big corp loves regulation of its competition most of all.
Just cos meta supports it doesnt mean its bad. The enemy of my enemy etc etc
Yeah I mean zuck and musk don’t want it because it removes an extra hoop that OpenAI has to jump through to compete, but all said and done fuck all three of them for taking another leap in human achievement and making it a “profit for investors at any cost.” And fuck OpenAI especially for pretending that wasn’t the case all along
And fuck OpenAI especially for pretending that wasn’t the case all along
I’m not sure they were ever pretending. I saw another Lemmy post about the Musk-OpenAI email exchanges from 8 years ago.
They seemed very open that the long term plan was to become a for profit company. They said they weren’t ready yet and rejected Elon’s demand to make him majority owner and merge with Tesla.
Elon’s biggest enemy is his own ego and wanting to be relevant
Fuck Meta. Fuck OpenAI.
And, I’d like to add, fuck Musk.
But maybe they can fuck each other a bit?
“Let them
fightfuck”
Probably the only time this year I’ll agree with Zuckerborg.
90% of Facebook content is AI generated content now. I cant even see what my friends are doing anymore. Makes me want to just delete it. But, I do occasionally see stuff from family and friends, which is the only reason I keep it. Some people I only stay in touch with through Facebook. But seriously, fuck that company.
You won’t miss it, you think you will but you honestly won’t.
Getting rid of Facebook was easily one of the best things I’ve done. The people that are important will find other ways to reach out.
It reminds me of Facebook friends who are worthless
Pull the plug, you won’t look back.
Start a text group chat.
I have only used groups to ask questions. Do people still do that, go browse the Facebook feed? I thought that’s a grandma thing
I got a Facebook again about 6 months ago so I could post our wedding photos for our friends. Before that I hadn’t had a Facebook in like 5 years.
let them fight
oh yeah, the “free” market
Why doesn’t Meta want Open AI to be a for-profit company?
And are there any examples of a company that started as a non-profit becoming for-profit?
It seems like besides Linux itself, most successful open source projects go for profit. When users don’t like the changes, they fork and keep going.
Like MySQL going for profit with a sell out to Oracle and MariaDB becoming the most popular fork of MySQL.
Not true, many big open source projects stay open.
A good example… PyTorch. Which Meta funds.
for profit would imply they can grow even faster due to having funds to expand its service. You would be against it if you plan on having your own competing AI service(which meta clearly does)
Meta has also released many top tier model to the open source community. To say “meta only oppose openai cuz they wanna create a service of their own” is quite frankely uninformed.
Meta is the reason so many researchers are able to work and make AI accessible to the everyday people. Without llama models, so much of research would not have been possible cuz openai never release their stuff under the guise of “safety”.
Openai wants to monopolize and charge us whatever they want. And this going for-profit was part of their plan from the beginning. If only meta had not released their top tier models for absolutely free, openai would have had complete monopoly.
Also saying for profit structure would allow them to have more fund is like saying having a gun will allow a robber to have more funds.
The funds will come from consumers, for profit would mean they will have an easier time ripping off the people without too much scrutiny
none of this doesn’t refute anything ive said. the whole point to prevent open ai from getting profit is to prevent it from getting big to the point that the rest are worthless. anyone who has a foot in AI would not want open ai to go for profit, as that on its own is a limiter to how fast it can grow. Strictly speaking, any non-profit organization has a significantly harder time to expand than ones that are for profit.
Why do you compare OpenAI to a thief?
I’m asking out of curiosity
Also, he does not want to be a Roko basilisk snack
But in that case sooner or later Roko’s basilisk will achieve its goal if you try to stop it, it will punish you in the process.
