Big round of golf claps for the "bleed Russia out slowly " strategy.
Top men… top men.
Give them a nuke back. Them relinquishing theirs assuming good faith by the Russians is half the reason this mess started. If they get one back it makes a push for total control of Ukraine an existential risk for Russia.
Edit: Before someone points it out, yes I’m being wildly naive, let me dream about a good outcome a little.
I was a grunt not a rocket scientist so serious question: do we have missiles they can load in the old Soviet silos or would it have to be a SCUD situation?
Either way, giving Kyiv a giant middle finger to wave at Moscow on the way out would be an epic mic drop moment for Biden.
Granted.
They don’t have to actually get the nuke back.
Everyone just has to think they did. The idea is just as much a weapon as the bomb itself.
The old squirt-gun pistol routine, lol.
Tbh, from what I’ve read, it sounds a lot like Sullivan is the primary character behind all the hesitancy and pussy-footing and restrictions around the military aid coming from the US. As far as I understand it, Sullivan still seems deathly afraid that Russia is some big military bogeyman, when the outcome of the last two years has revealed them to be anything but, and whose only real “virtue” is a willingness to enthusiastically use meat waves at a strategic level. I’m concerned that Sullivan will continue to slow-walk everything, despite the circumstances.
Trump has expressed skepticism regarding the level of aid sent to Ukraine, which puts him at odds with Biden, who has been a staunch ally of Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy as the country continues its fight against Russia.
Which is why it’s so fucked up Biden’s first priority was Israel.
I’ll give credit to Biden for the arms to Ukraine when Ukraine receives them. I don’t know why people on either side keep giving credit any earlier.
Now ‘ere’s what crazy-ol’ u/peopleproblems would do. Crazy ol’ u/peopleroblems would come to the sum of bitches we have in Acquisitions, and say 'how many weeks could a force of exactly Ukraine’s force hold a position with everything we have currently sitting in storage deployment ready, but not otherwise deployed? Ok, and how about all the equipment we have being delivered under contract for that many weeks? Ok, now, get me a number to replace all that equipment with the newest contracts set to immediately fill everything we send for that first chunk. Ok, now double it, and phone the pencil pushers to get procurement offers for this shit from the defense manufacturers. Yes, definitely let their boards know too. Oh, don’t mention where the already purchased equipment is going, that’s national security interest. Just mention the US is interested in making them rich in turn for securing our country for a long time."
“And give that number to Congress?”
“Once the various board members hear first. We gotta feed the handlers before we treat the pawns in Congress.”
“Sir is that, legal?”
“It’s an official act. I just made it legal.”
I get the sentiment.
But i just want to make sure that everyone here knows that biden doesnt have carte blanche to do what he wants because hes not exactly aligned with the conservative supreme court that decides if its an official act or not.
I see this shit all the time and with the way the election went, im pretty convinced that the american electorate is dumb enough to think biden is actually immune.
In this case, I don’t think SCOTUS would be able to do much. They tied their own hands on the “official presidential act” thing. It would have to be up to congress.
They conveniently forgot to define what constitutes an “official act”, meaning they can re-interpret the meaning of that on the fly in order to reward their friends and punish opponents.
They said congress had to decide that.
Scotus is completely anathema to giving power away to other branches. No, if there is a question on what constitutes an official act it gets remanded to the lower courts.
That’s not going to make this any easier or more difficult. Conservative officials all walk in lockstep.
Amazing
Good.
What‘s the thinking behind this? Because it very much sounds like: We got to advance at least a couple of meters before Trump starts negotiations. If that is the case, then I think that’s completely fucked up. How about initiating negotiations now instead of having one final slaughter. Man, the Biden administration’s last acts truly show how little respect they have for human suffering.
Because there isn’t going to BE a settlement. Not a while longer anyway.
Trump is going to say “Ukraine, let Russia have whatever it has taken”. Ukraine is (rightfully) going to say “fuck that…they’re not getting an inch”. Trump responds by stopping all aid.
This is a buildup to help them while they transition on only being able to rely on the EU for support because Trump is all up in papa-putin’s-panties and Biden knows it.
It’s true, a lot depends on what Europe will be doing. Without American leadership it’s going to be difficult, though. Germany and France don’t have functioning governments right now and there’s ever more war weary European nations. So Europe’s split.
Zelensky knows that and he’s been talking about ceding occupied territory for the first time. Everybody seems to be scrambling for a final result is my interpretation of what’s happening right now. I personally hope that the war will be at least halted and Europe won’t try it on its own.
He hasn’t been talking about sceding territory, only ceasfire and let the russians on those territories for now.
you’re right he didn’t say that. I understood it like that. Nevertheless there are expectations that a ceasefire might come.
Don’t forget that if the russians can regroup during the ceasefire before an attack again (they do break any promise they make) then it’s a bad ceasefire.
Not saying a ceasefire shouldn’t be sought for, but IMO it’s mostly political play to keep the USA on their side, so both smart and good. Keep all the options open.
I love how people in America voted Dems out because they’re struggling to feed their families, and Biden’s only priorities here are keeping his scumbag son out of prison and making sure war is escalated as much as possible before his term ends.
Great stuff, Genocide Joe.
Escalated? Oh do tell me how exactly that’s going to work. We’re already at a full scale invasion with nearly a million casualties. What, are they going to invade harder? Fuck off, spew russian propaganda elsewhere. If you need help grasping the concept, here’s a handy chart.
I love how uneducated people didn’t vote at all and allowed a sexual predator and Russian asset to become president, again.
Great stuff ruskies, but you forgot one thing. never eat the pickle, because you’ll choke.
I love how uneducated people didn’t vote at all and allowed a sexual predator and Russian asset to become president, again.
It’s crazy how liberals hate democracy immediately when their 10 dimensional multi-spreadsheet chess doesn’t work out in their favor because the father of the family of 4 down the street is too stupid to realize that over a 10 year horizon earned income tax credits will have netted him $70k as long as his and his wife’s combined maximum AGI doesn’t go over $64k, and he only has to pays an average rent of $210,000 for that same period as long as his kids are doubled up in the other bedroom of a two bedroom 950sqft apartment. Is it too much for these morons to say you’re welcome. It’s like you still have the rest of your money to feed and take care of your family, kids are cheap right? If not you can just put them to work but make sure that your AGI doesn’t go above $64k otherwise you can kiss that lucrative $7k a year net goodbye. I mean honestly a little thanks should be expected if you can just wait out 12 years and save that $7k you’ll save up 20% of an average home price using today’s prices (don’t ask how much you’ll need for a down payment in 12 years please).
Are voters stupid?
I swear you used words but dammed if I can’t find a coherent stream of thought from them.
if I didn’t know better I’d say most of that was AI generated.
Yeah it’s really funny because this stream of bullshit is exactly what Democrats offer and what they talk about when they talk about how they affect normal people. By the way this is all literally just tax code mixed with cost of housing averages over 10 years. It quite literally would make sense to anyone who’s ever been a big boy and model citizen by standards that liberal Democrats love to tout, like being smart, doing your own home work, and loving the optimization of spreadsheets about various cost/risk balances in your life.
The fact that you cannot understand it and blame voters for being stupid entirely shows you cannot live up to that standard. So beyond just a reflexive hatred of democracy, you’re not even a good lib. And maybe, if you cannot even understand the practical application of one of the shining policies that the Democratic party loves to throw in the face of people as an example of how they made their lives better and how they will continue to do so, just maybe you’re also no better than the “voters” who you consider stupid.
The fact that you cannot understand it and blame voters for being stupid entirely shows you cannot live up to that standard.
So you’re saying people should be happy Trump got elected again?
It’s an .ml CCP mouthpiece. Don’t feed it.
They are no longer here to be fed.
No I’m saying maybe offer people something other than tax spread sheet bullshit, which is generally all the democratic party can ever do. They fucking can’t stop talking about the EITC.
So people should be unhappy that Harris wasn’t elected?
Who gives a fuck? Harris’ own team knew she was unelectable. This is only a surprise to libs who are so high on copium they cannot read a room.
So people shouldn’t give a fuck that Trump is president?
I love how uneducated people didn’t vote at all
They’re not uneducated. They’re desperate, and they spent the last 8 years watching both parties ignore how much they’re struggling. Why miss a day of work when you know your vote doesn’t matter?
Also, you need to ditch this smugness if you want to win people to your side.
Spend 8 years watching both parties ignote their struggles, and then vote for the one that’s actively promising to make them worse?
Bold move, Cotton.
I think they’re talking about people who didn’t vote at all, not Trump voters.
They’re not uneducated.
They clearly are since they acted against their best interests and only the uneducated and insufferably weak willed work against themselves.
Also, you need to ditch this smugness if you want to win people to your side.
you seem to be under the misconception that I’m trying to win people to my cause. I refuse to pander to their absurd ideals and will not coddle them like children.
point blank, I don’t give a damn about their fragile sensibilities about whatever political wedge they want to believe in on a whim.
the people who refused to vote, that allowed this to happen, could rot in the streets as far as I care. They are simply a distraction from the true enemy, Russia and China.
I will do everything within my power to resist Russian and Chinese aggressions. I don’t know what I’m going to do, but I know I’m going to do everything I can to be a huge pain in the ass for them.
this includes but is not limited to the netizens who have and are spreading their propaganda.
every raging river starts as a flowing stream.
Apathetic != uneducated. Plenty of people don’t vote because they can’t be bothered to.
My own mother refused to register for DECADES because “I don’t want to be picked for jury duty.” Not making that up. I finally convinced her to register after pointing out jury duty also comes from drivers license records.
So what your saying is that your mom was pretty uneducated and only participated in the voting process after you educated her.
Apathetic != uneducated. Plenty of people don’t vote because they can’t be bothered to.
sounds like they failed American civics, which makes them uneducated.
My own mother refused to register for DECADES because “I don’t want to be picked for jury duty.”
sounds like your mother failed civics as well.
Not making that up. I finally convinced her to register after pointing out jury duty also comes from drivers license records.
I bet you were frustrated. Now imagine 20 million Americans refusing to vote to stop a literal Nazi from gaining power again. I would ask how you would convince those 20 million but it doesn’t matter anymore.
when you fail to vote, you lose.
when we fail to vote, we all lose.
Yup, and the sad part is, I called it before the election. The only reason voter participation was up in 2020 was because Covid restrictions encouraged vote by mail.
Without the vote by mail push, participation was going to drop, and because the Democrats benefited more from vote by mail, it was going to hurt them.
Surprise, surprise, that’s exactly what happened.
I’m pretty sure Ukraine not defending itself would escalate the war, what with it resulting in Russia taking over the rest of the country.
Although I suppose that would eventually end it. Maybe in the way you want?
Hey, quick question, which country invade Ukraine? Did the US, is that how they are escalating? Oh wait, no it was russia that did it. Right you meant to blame russia for doing this right?
I will support the Ukraine war if you all go in-person to fight it.
Until then, I’d much rather see those dollars spent here.
Thanks.
Who do you think is making the military gear? Most sent over its old shit wasting space in storage anyway
They are spending it here.
Lots of the stuff sent to Ukraine is things that have a shelf life anyway.
It’s not like you could subsist on artillery shells anyway.So official comes out and says, we are going to deploy as much military equipment possible using the money that Congress had appropriated for it. (Note Congress was held by a Republican majority). And people think Bidens administration is somehow spending money that could have been used for the American people… Where the Republican majority congress DID NOT appropriate it.
What specific policies do you want to see those dollars spent on here. Be specific. List 5.
- Medicare for all
Who did you vote for that supports that?
First Past The Post voting artificially limits the number of viable political parties to two. With state level electoral reform, people would be free to vote outside the two party system secure in the knowledge their vote would still be counted against those they don’t want in office.
That said, I’m glad ukraine is getting more. Just wish this had happened 2 years ago. To answer your previous question:
- Free social housing for all.
The for profit home building/loan industry has failed to do their job and all subsidies and benefits they enjoy must be stripped away. We should build the mega cities from judge dredd and run high speed rail from them to the nearest downtown metro.
This is a housing crisis, start acting like it. Declare a national emergency, use the army core of engineers and eminent domain to build.
Stop involving the people who helped create the housing crisis. Stop being held back by red tape.
High rent and low wages, Mao what’s the worst that could happen?
Bernie, the last time the oligarchs allowed me to, as a treat.
So you’ve just been abstaining ever since?
So you did not vote and allowed trump to take office?
You’ll support the Ukraine if I, a 47-year-old with severe health issues that can’t walk much more than half an hour without needed to rest due to them, who has never shot a gun in his life, and who has the flattest feet you have ever seen to go over to Ukraine and fight for them? (Oh, also I’m a coward so I would definitely get scared and run away.)
I find it hard to believe that you would only support Ukraine if they allow people so obviously unfit for duty into their military.
Yeah… This is going to Ukraine, so yeah it’s just kind of important.
Unless you are one of these people that think Russia should be allowed to just have Ukraine.
“the Ukraine” referred to the region while it was still part of the Russian/Soviet empire. Nowadays just “Ukraine” is the better way to say it, from what I understand.
so yeah it’s just kind of important.
That’s what they say about every war.
Obama had us at war in seven countries, all of which were super-important too. (Iraq, Afghanistan, Somalia, Libya, Pakistan, Yemen, and Syria.)
But no money for health care or to put food on your table, of course.
If you expect the worlds richest man (has he done anything for anyone?) and the worlds most useful idiot (he won’t even pay his bills) to help anyone, enjoy the dirt you head is buried in.
Hes one of the new waves of trolls. Either block him or make a user note so you can downvote him in every thread so people know not to engage.
I think he blocked me. Lol. He stopped responding anyway.
Removed by mod
And it was the Rs that lied to the public in order to bomb Iraq and Afghanistan in the first place.
And trump now threatens to court marshall those in the military that “got us out” of Afghanistan by following the deal he made in negotiating with the Taliban.
Israel’s genocidal gov can burn in hell.
So can Putin’s.
The states that legalized weed…were states. It’s still a federally listed substance on the same level as heroin. (Were those states R or D?)
More covid aid that went to corporations.
Also, withheld aid to states he didn’t like.
Also, delayed aid.
Also, he prevented purchase of medical supplies. Also, promoted conspiracy theories.
His inaction, deception, and disinformation help killed over a million.And he sent Putin covid testing supplies.
I don’t know who you’re arguing with here.
I already said I agree with OP on Trump and Musk being assholes, but that doesn’t change the fact that some good was done in his first term. It’s a matter of historical fact, not opinion.
I just gave you the historical facts. You choose to ignore them.
I will never understand how a war on the other side of the planet is important to me, my life, my family, my community, or anything or here. Why isn’t the other wars important? Isn’t there a civil war in Myanmar? What about the wars in Africa?
You think they’ll stop at Ukraine? If Russia continues to encroach in Europe it will affect you in USA. Just a matter of time.
No it won’t
Not even a little bit? What leads you to this conclusion?
~French people witnessing the invasion of Poland, 1939
Oh yeah, you"re right, let’s appease the dictator because that worked so well last time.
Where is your certainty coming from?
And the US has been helping Saudi Arabia starve and devastate Yemen for eight years.
They think Ukraine is important because their preferred news network tells them it is over, and over, and over, and over again and they don’t consume any media that sways from that narrative.
When the war between Russia and Ukraine first started in 2022 I was seeing reports of the Ukrainians trying to force Africans on student visas to stay in the country and fight. That’s when I decided that I don’t gaf about Ukraine.
was seeing reports
<<<<<<<<<<<<<Citation Needed>>>>>>>>>>>>>
(that’s not Russian state TV)
Here is one report of the difficulties non white students had leaving.
Here is a report of someone from the Congo being told to fight for Ukraine.
So as someone of african decedent I don’t give a fuck about Ukraine.
Cool story, still bullshit
Cool story huh? Not hard to find the evidence. Here is some for you:
Here is one report of the difficulties non white students had leaving.
Here is a report of someone from the Congo being told to fight for Ukraine.
Still bullshit?
You wanna link some of that claim?
Here is one report of the difficulties non white students had leaving.
Here is a report of someone from the Congo being told to fight for Ukraine.
So as someone of african decedent I don’t give a fuck about Ukraine.
