Sometimes a war is justified, and coming to the aid of an ally getting invaded is a damn good justification.

Especially if that ally is simply asking for more hardware and not asking for feet on the ground.

Edit: Fixed the link, it was broken for some reason though it worked earlier today. IDK this mirror should work though

  • LexamEnglish
    33·
    11 months ago

    Fun history fact (any actual historians can correct me) Many of the Americans who were against war with Germany were sympathetic with Hitler’s genocidal views or were straight up Nazis themselves.

    • Poob
      14·
      11 months ago

      20,000 American Nazis held a rally in Madison Square Garden. Facism was quite popular in the United States all the way til WW2 (and continued to be for 83 years afterwards).

  • animelivesmatter@lemmy.world
    20·
    11 months ago

    I love when “anti-war” people just end up justifying and defending someone else’s war, or when “anti-imperialists” just end up justifying someone else’s imperialism. Real anti-imperialists (me) think that fighting against imperialism is good, and that only offering lip service to anti-imperialism while also decrying any attempt to put it into action is shitlib behavior, actually

    • Gormadt@lemmy.blahaj.zoneOPEnglish
      6·
      11 months ago

      I’m anti wars of aggression and anti imperialism, I condemn that shit when I see it and tell my representatives my opinions on the matter when they give theirs.

      Though I do believe that investments in other developing countries in principle can be good if the terms of the investment are good, but it unfortunately can be pretty predatory if not done with care.

      I’m (in general) pro wars of defense, countries defending themselves (and when necessary with help) is a good thing IMO.

      I feel we should be building towards a better world for everyone which is apparently a controversial view among some people.

      Ideally someday (probably a long way into the future) we can be a united humanity building for the better of mankind but damn do we have a lot of work to do.

      • animelivesmatter@lemmy.world
        4·
        11 months ago

        In case it’s unclear, I’m not calling you a shitlib, I’m saying that the people you’re criticizing act like shitlibs (and frankly most of the time they are just shitlibs). General support of wars of defense is an anti-imperialist position

    • MindSkipperBro12@lemmy.worldEnglish
      2·
      11 months ago

      I was a part of Shitlib Central, r/neoliberal, before the Great Migration and let me tell you: We did not tolerate any defense of the Ruskies in Ukraine and I’m willing to bet we still haven’t. So the idea that we “offer lip service to anti-imperialism while also decrying any attempt to put into action” is merely folly.

      • animelivesmatter@lemmy.world
        2·
        11 months ago

        You’ve got it the wrong way around. I’m talking about people that call themselves “anti-war” or “anti-imperialism” but hold positions opposed to that, specifically. The kinds of neoliberals you’re talking about don’t generally claim those positions to begin with, so I’m not talking about them. They aren’t even offering lip service on being anti-imperialism, they’re just pro-western interests and occasionally that lucks them into a somewhat correct position. There’s more than one way to be a shitlib, you know.

  • Zirconium@lemmy.blahaj.zone
    3·
    11 months ago

    Reading the comments here makes me glad hexbear defederated from us. A lot of revionist authoritarian apologistics holy shit