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Summary
Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky expressed confidence that Donald Trump’s presidency will hasten the end of the war with Russia, following their “constructive exchange” after Trump’s election victory.
Zelensky emphasized the need for a diplomatic resolution by next year, while acknowledging Ukraine’s challenges on the battlefield.
Trump, criticized for his alleged leniency toward Vladimir Putin, has vowed to end the war quickly but has not detailed his strategy.
The U.S. remains Ukraine’s largest arms supplier, recently approving $61 billion in aid.
One of these will happen?
Trump is Putins puppet and US will eventually drop support from Ukraine. Europes support will not be enough and Ukraine eventually falls. Trump tower will be build in Moscow in a decade.
Trump will brown nose Putin. Putin will humiliate Trump and things will continue as is.
Option 2, but Trump dies or is incapacitated. Just replace Trump with Vance or other Republican stooge.
Trump is actually a misunderstood stable genius and war will end with territorial loses that Ukraine can accept.
Russia has an economical collapse and has to pull out of Ukraine, but still desperately tries to cling on Crimea. No peace agreement signed and conflict continues as a confusing mess to far future, maybe stabilizing in Korea style.
Everybody goes nuts and we are all live action roleplaying Fallout.
1 is impossible due to Europe’s conviction. 2 is inevitable.
I think 5 has some elements of truth, but a full on collapse would probably be the end of Putin. More minor economic problems would probably lead to koreafication around the current front line.
I don’t think Europe has much conviction regarding Ukraine, unfortunately. Most of the larger EU member states are trying to slow their own Russia-backed right-wing movements but appear to be losing ground by the day. It’s only a matter of time before the “appeasement” stance becomes widespread and we end up with a situation mirroring the 1930’s.
I think its probably critical that political parties focus on defending against russian agression, even above economic issues or immigration issues. Might be time for unity governments if things start to get bad with the US and Russian fronts.
It’s hard when there’s easy points to be scored by saying “why should we spend our hard earned money on far away wars when we can spend it at home on hookers and blow!”
Well, the biggest supporters of Ukraine like the nordics, baltics, and Poland don’t see Russia as far way, but yes, that’s the difficulty.
It’s surprising that even leftist parties like Sahra Wagenknecht have become open supporters of Russian fascism in Europe.
Yet you already have direct neighbors of Russia like Hungary and Slovakia simping for Putin, so proximity to the threat doesn’t seem to overcome the tendency towards misinformation and manipulation against your own best interests.
3 should happen soon with all the McDonald he eats.
Scholz (the spineless fuck) has already reached out to Putin.
Wouldn’t nuclear winter help with global warming?
A nuclear winter isn’t a scientific guarantee, many post-cold war models have suggested it might not happen.
That said, shit would get fucked up but for how long and what affects they have on the atmosphere is still debated.
Wow, I didn’t know it was debated. Thank you.
Well, it would send us all to the middle ages… so, probably yes /s
So would the collapse of civilization. Neither counts as a win for humanity.
Fuck humanity, i want to ensure a place for my cats to live in.
Cats will probably be okay. Their wild cousins are native to desert climates.
Yes but dogs.