I have used Modafinil before occasionally, and it helped quite a bit, but the strong side effects forced me to save it for emergencies.

6 days ago first Elvanse. Within about 30 minutes of the first dose, many problems were gone completely! No mental effort to do what’s needed, be it laundry or a subtask at work. It feels like my brain is a little butler whom I can just order around without doing it myself. Many things just happen, e. g. I put garbage in the bin, carry dishes back to the kitchen as I go anyway, without thinking about it. Complete instant fix. Also a constant feeling like a hundred bucks, better than many recreational drugs.

Almost feeling bad when gaming at the end of the day, keeping it brief, doing extra work hours right before bed. The effect has somewhat worn off by then, but the no-effort-to-do-things is still there.

I always did feel better when checking things off my todo-list, even untreated, but now I get a lot more done, since there is no pain to just do it.

I can also work out until the body just physically gives in; there is no mental barrier to fight like “ONE MORE REP!!!”. It might have been a mistake to exploit that in the first few days, leading to exhaustion and more difficulty to judge the right dose / side effects. When I saw someone who was very buff, I used to think: He may not look like it, but he has fantastic discipline, focus and willpower. Now I wonder if some of these people are just normal, lol

This is a completely different life, and slightly better than Modafinil! I am a little worried about when the effect wears off and I need a break, but I’ve been there before: A lot can get done with just about 50 “super-days” per year.

What did not improve one bit is my forgetfulness and other cognitive problems. Just as stupid as before, e. g. packing a suitcase, putting things next to it to stash something else and then forgetting them. Leaving my phone in insane places. Barely able to use the self-checkout at a supermarket. It’s always an adventure, looking confused between the card screen and the items screen, often needing an employee, forgetting my card there and not realising before the next day etc. Problems with web UIs & pop-ups. That’s what my GP wanted checked out 1 1/2 years ago, but no appointments.

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    Immediate:

    • Focus on a task because I decided to do so
    • Stay focused much longer without becoming exhausted or frustrated
    • More respectful in conversations because I was able to stay focused on what they were saying. I also remembered what they said.
    • Hope that things could improve

    Long-term:

    • More confidence in myself
    • Reduced shame that I was rude, disrespectful, or careless about others. Paradoxically, this lead to me setting better boundaries when overwhelmed because I didn’t see them as rude.
    • Less reliance on notes
    • Less anxiety that I forgot something important
    • Less vulnerable to manipulation because I was able to see patterns better since I could remember interactions more, and I was more confident that what I remembered was right.
    • I was able to structure my days better. I developed a daily routine, eat healthier, and establish sleep schedule.
    • More awareness as to what were issues I was having because of ADHD
    • Felt more like a person than a problem

    What surprised me the most was that all of these are apart from work. I had no idea how much ADHD was affecting my overall life. When the psychiatrist said that treating it would be really impactful to my mood, I thought she was just trying to lift my spirits and get me hopeful. Nope. She knew exactly what she was talking about.

    Edit: Whoops. These all were things that improved. What didn’t improve was things that were related to other matters, such as anxiety in crowds, lack of trust in others, general sense of doom, etc., but I’m working on it! Being able to plan and follow through is fantastic. Ohhhhh, is this what executive functioning is??

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    [off topic?]

    Any time you start a new treatment it’s a good idea to keep a log of how you feel.

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    So. I’ve kind of had two eye opening moments with meds.

    I first started with concerta, and it was like stepping into the light. The problems were certainly not gone, but they were at least manageable. I could break out of mental loops that were not productive, and focus on stuff I actually needed to do. I still had a bit of an obsession with being as near-perfect as I could, but I could focus those efforts into things that were actually useful, instead of my mind going in circles.

    It improved my emotional state. I was kind of in a long term funk of “everything is meh”, and I found myself smiling so much it hurt my face. A lot of that diminished over time, but it hasn’t gone away, it’s just less intense.

    Recently I started on an NDRI, Wellbutrin, which had more subtle positive effects. Immediately I noticed the negative side effects, dry mouth, some GI issues. I stuck with it for a week and most of that has subsided. I dunno if the negatives made the positives more shrouded, or if the positives are just minor in comparison, but I find my emotional state and attitude is more on the positive side rather than sitting fairly firmly in the middle.

    As for my usual ADHD symptoms, with the combination of the concerta and Wellbutrin, I have little or no difficulty doing the little routine things that I always had to push myself to do before. The phrase “super easy, barely an inconvenience” applies to all the little trivial tasks I do daily, when before it was always some level of mental effort to get myself to do things.

    I feel more “normal” now than I ever have before.

    In goes say, if this is how non-ADHD (and/or non-executive function disorder) people are, then I get why they don’t understand us. This is an easy, quick, and trivial task, it takes no time or effort to do… But when you have an executive function disorder, the task might as well be “climb Mount Everest” not “fold laundry”.

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    I can focus longer on tasks I don’t want to do, like pointless work tasks and can retain information in the shirt term longer than without meds. Completion of large and complex work doesn’t end up being a downward spiral of ‘what if’ side tracks that aren’t relevant, and refraining from speaking up when not needed is way easier. Social interactions are a lot less stressful because i say what I’m actially thinking snd not drifting into random tangents.

    What didn’t work is long term retention of learned skills. Whole meds helped with doing new things in the short term even when uninterested, I still have to relearn most things I haven’t done for a few years. Honestly that is the worst thing for me related to ADHD, repeating all of the same mistakes any time i do something I don’t do regularly and instantky remembering how I made that mistake the last two times I relearned it.

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        Yeah, being able to focus on the important ones is such a huge benefit of meds when doing large and complex processes that can have an endless number of possibilities.

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    Modafinil and Dexamphetamine sure - but have you tried Methylphenidate then?

    (Parent with ADHD kids here)

    While Modafinil has support in the literature I don’t think it’s prescribed officially for ADHD, and due to the different way they work the top choice for ADHD is usually Methylphenidate rather than Amphetamine.

    Whatever works for you is the best for you though, I was just a bit surprised :)

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      GP and therapist also said that methylphenidate is the way to go, without alternative, even. But the psychiatrist said that for adults, lisdexamfetamine is slightly better, both regarding best effect and lowest side effects. A quick web search seems to support that, as well as what people in this community, who tried both, said.

      One disadvantage is the insurance: If I try some day to have it covered, it’s quite likely that they insist to pay only for the cheaper methylphenidate, and only switch if there are significant problems.

      I found this German source for dosage and finding the right medication very good: https://www.adxs.org/de/page/232/eindosierung-von-medikamenten-bei-adhs#content-241-elvanse-lisdexamfetamin

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      I started with 5 mg, which had a significant, great effect for 4 hours, then crash. I worked up from there and think that 12 mg is the right one for now.

      I followed this guide in German, and agree from experience that starting with 30 mg or even 20 mg is not a good idea: https://www.adxs.org/de/page/232/eindosierung-von-medikamenten-bei-adhs#content-241-elvanse-lisdexamfetamin

      Interesting is their take that the right window +/- 5 mg must be hit, otherwise too low of an effect or very unpleasant side effects.

      For Modafinil, I also went with 1/8th of a normal dose for a while, working up over months to 1/2.