• solsangraal@lemmy.zip
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    160
    ·
    30 days ago

    His primary rules were: never allow the public to cool off; never admit a fault or wrong; never concede that there may be some good in your enemy; never leave room for alternatives; never accept blame; concentrate on one enemy at a time and blame him for everything that goes wrong; people will believe a big lie sooner than a little one; and if you repeat it frequently enough people will sooner or later believe it.

    https://phdn.org/archives/www.ess.uwe.ac.uk/documents/osssection3pt1.htm

    • zephorah@lemm.ee
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      58
      ·
      30 days ago

      It’s Cluster B. Alternative reality. Never to blame. They almost need enemies to work on to be themselves. Gaslight or verbally abuse those in disagreement lest your private reality break. No empathy. Chases power over scenarios.

      We’re living inside the reality of a mental illness. And because it goes to the highest office, the fuckery is exponentially more.

    • Doorbook@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      12
      arrow-down
      40
      ·
      30 days ago

      This literally the “israeli” government. Yet we see the Democrats administration, willing to defend that. If the US government in principle is happy supporting a Nazi government; i feel that it reflects well having 2/3 of the population being happy with a Nazi government themselves.

        • LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.dbzer0.com
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          2
          arrow-down
          1
          ·
          edit-2
          29 days ago

          If you look into the war at all… He’s not wrong. Israel is no better then Russia right now.

          Edit… Actually probably worse, because where Russia has failed to advance further… Israel has not.

      • Resonosity@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        10
        arrow-down
        4
        ·
        29 days ago

        The Israeli government is being fascist, and has been for a long time. Thank you for calling it out. Sad to see the down votes because Palestinians have been locked in Israel’s cage with no freedom for decades, and Lebanon is next. Hopefully society starts to shift in its outlook and complicity.

        You hit the nail on the head too. So many people cannot support Democrats during this election because although they call for freedom and justice, they also call for arms transfers and no repurcussions for Netanyahu countlessly dissolving freedom and justice for Palestinians.

        Voting for Democrats, unfortunately, boils down to “rights for me, not for thee”, and the only difference between that sentiment and what you might find in Conservatives is that Democrats hold that distinction between all Americans and those from other countries. Conservatives hold that between different groups of Americans.

        Really sours any hope I had for Kamala overtaking Biden

        • LesserAbe@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          9
          arrow-down
          2
          ·
          29 days ago

          Israel gov is apartheid and fascist. Still, we exist in the world, and someone will be elected president of the United States. A person here can either vote strategically, or they can abstain and potentially help the worst option win.

          • Resonosity@lemmy.world
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            5
            arrow-down
            1
            ·
            29 days ago

            Oh I will always tell people to not vote for Trump. There is doing damage to our international reputation as the leader of the free world, and then there is complete and utter dismantling and destruction of the free world, us included.

            I will vote and it won’t be Trump, but I also want Democrats to earn my vote. The cognitive dissonance has to stop.

            • RippleEffect@lemm.ee
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              2
              arrow-down
              1
              ·
              28 days ago

              We’re out of time. At least for president, there are no other viable candidates for this cycle. Down ballot, you should be researching your candidates thoroughly.

        • explodicle@sh.itjust.works
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          1
          ·
          28 days ago

          The ruling class is taking advantage of our different time preferences. If you expect to live long enough to die to climate change, then you’re “privileged”.

        • humanspiral
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          2
          arrow-down
          5
          ·
          29 days ago

          Trump and so many of his zionist first supporters have backed Trump specifically because of “rising anti semitism” in US. University protests against genocide should have been handled like Kent State, to them. Biden/Blinken have been ineffective in getting ceasefires, possibly intentionally ineffective. But that is partly because Netanyahu prefers Trump, and Trump promises to fully support “finishing the job of genocide”. It’s unfair to critizide Dems for Israel, when US is bipartisanly Israel first political/state rule.

            • ChronosTriggerWarning@lemmy.world
              link
              fedilink
              arrow-up
              5
              ·
              29 days ago

              University protests against genocide should have been handled like Kent State, to them.

              Their syntax is wonky, but they’re saying Trump’s supporters would have liked the protests handled like Kent State.

          • Resonosity@lemmy.world
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            2
            ·
            29 days ago

            The US is bipartisan when it comes to Israeli support because Democrats haven’t broken from that bipartisan tradition.

            Once Democrats do, it is no longer bipartisan.

            I don’t expect Conservatives to do this given what you’ve said, so Democrats foot the bill.

            Biden has in fact already called for the cease of arms transfers, but that policy goes into effect after the election finishes. If Biden can call for it after the election, he can call for it today.

            There is no reason why the Commander in Chief cannot outlaw the transfer of weapons and ammunition to Israel. We’ve already broken one of our laws that prevents this.

      • SpaceCowboy
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        5
        arrow-down
        25
        ·
        30 days ago

        Wow so edgy and original!

        Never heard a Hamas propagandist say “actually Israel is nazi” before!

        • frunch@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          4
          ·
          29 days ago

          First time for everything! Crazy to think it’s true, but here we are in this brave new world

        • LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.dbzer0.com
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          4
          ·
          edit-2
          29 days ago

          No one is for Hamas, but if you are pro Israels government right now, you are pro genocide, and there is no evidence anywhere that shows otherwise. Mother’s complaining their kids have PTSD from driving military equipment threw hundreds of women and children… And somehow claiming the women and children are terrorists… With zero evidence other than they existed in the area that was invaded.

          • SpaceCowboy
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            1
            arrow-down
            6
            ·
            29 days ago

            Nah, I’m against massacring villages which is what Hamas did. You seem to be on their side (or you at least look the other way when they commit atorcities) so you’re pro genocide. But that’s what fascist do, right? Accuse your enemies of that which you’re guilty of. Nothing you’re saying is all that original.

  • waddle_dee@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    112
    ·
    edit-2
    30 days ago

    Read the whole and thing and, wow. It’s just unbelievable to me that people can support this man so fervently.

    I guess it’s what happens when you give people permission to be completely selfish and devoid of empathy. He’s a fucking psychopath.

    • Jesus@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      37
      ·
      30 days ago

      It’s what happens when you get your news in parts of the country where Fox and Sinclair own the airwaves. They make immigrants and democrats seem terrifying.

    • zephorah@lemm.ee
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      19
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      30 days ago

      Not psychopathy. But narcissistic personality disorder. If you know anyone who has lived with one, they can tell you it’s on the verge of psychopathy.

      It’s crazy behavior and crazy talk because it’s mental illness, probably somewhere around 60 years untreated mental illness. And hallmarks of NPD are maintaining a personal alternative reality, mentally tearing apart anyone disagreeing with that alternative reality, and no empathy.

      I’m sick to death of no one talking about it and calling it what it is. We can talk about Biden’s dementia but not this?

      • monsterpiece42@reddthat.com
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        1
        ·
        29 days ago

        I agree 100%. Not sure if it’ll helps you feel better but I’m “the” other person that has been saying this along with you lol. I’m a psychology geek and it is so completely obvious that’s what he has imo. I have noticed over the years that people don’t “get” NPD because it’s so counter-intuitive to a functioning human though.

        I would actually argue that NPD is on average more dangerous than the ASPDs like psychopathy and sociopathy because it implicitly involves other people. Psycho/sociopaths want “something” and will do anything to get it but sometimes that thing they want may be fairly harmless. Like maybe they sometimes they just stuff so they’re thieves. Not great, but mostly a victimless crime. Narcissists specifically want admiration and to prop up that fragile sense of self but that always specifically involves other people, so they’re always going to be in proximity with others where the ASPDers may not.

        Tldr, the doom Cheeto is a POS with NPD and I will lose exactly zero sleep the day he dies.

        • zephorah@lemm.ee
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          1
          ·
          29 days ago

          The latest Ezra Klein talks about this, finally, and in a way that probably won’t get him sued. It’s well articulated, as always with Klein, and more than a little terrifying given the way he builds his presentation.

          The podcast is also a YouTube entitled something to the effect of: what’s wrong with trump, not age.

    • Optional@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      8
      arrow-down
      2
      ·
      30 days ago

      Its just standard brainwashing. It’s not even complicated. It’s all right out in the open.

    • waz@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      28
      ·
      30 days ago

      I expect he is a slow reader. He may not have gotten to that part of the book yet.

        • tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          7
          ·
          29 days ago

          Maybe he has good associations with that word because when he said lo mein at a Chinese restaurant a plate of greasy noodles arrived

          • Good_morning@lemmynsfw.com
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            13
            ·
            29 days ago

            Reminds me of the theory explaining why he say other countries are emptying their “insane asylums”.

            He was told immigrants are seeking asylum, has zero clue what that means, and determined that it meant countries are emptying mental hospitals and sending their patients to the US.

          • Proposal6114@lemmy.dbzer0.com
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            3
            ·
            29 days ago

            I fucking hate that things are so fucked that I actually took a second to evaluate that. In ANY other context I would giggle and move on.

            Well done. I hate this timeline

    • jagged_circle@feddit.nl
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      21
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      29 days ago

      Pretty sure he would consider murdering millions of Mexicans as a win, even if it ends with a bullet to his temple.

      • Event_Horizon@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        22
        ·
        edit-2
        29 days ago

        Ya know I realise this is complete conspiracy theory.

        However, I’m still willing to give a 2-5% chance that if Trump gets back into power, within the last 12-18 months of his presidency he’ll declare a special operation into North Mexico to ‘secure the border’, ‘stop the illegal immigrants’ and ‘remove the drug cartels’.

        Then he’ll claim it’s too dangerous to hold the election, or not appropriate, or whatever excuse because of the special operation. And then he’ll postpone the election with the approval of the SC as a presidential duty and therefore not illegal.

        And I know this is insane but every time I ask myself “would trump attempt something like this?” The answer is always “yes”

    • mkwt@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      8
      arrow-down
      13
      ·
      30 days ago

      Germany mainly lost by losing the economics and resources games. A secondary factor was when Hitler started taking over strategic and tactical planning from the generals.

      My take on the generals themselves is that they were at least not terrible.

      • Joker@lemmy.zip
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        16
        ·
        30 days ago

        Economic and resources problems are part in parcel with a despot with a desire for absolute loyalty.

      • Frostbeard@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        13
        arrow-down
        1
        ·
        29 days ago

        Dont understand why you get downvoted, as I assume you mean that the generals wrwe not strategical and tactical terrible. Think most historians will agree that Hitlers direct involvement in the war was a growing issue in conducting the war. Also Hitler stayed in power by making sure that the levels below him were at each others throats and not able to challenge him directly. Nazi Germany was not technically on a war economy until Speer took over, and the amount of corruption was immens.

        • frezik@midwest.social
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          15
          ·
          edit-2
          29 days ago

          Think most historians will agree that Hitlers direct involvement in the war was a growing issue in conducting the war.

          This part has been revisited in the decades since the end of the Cold War. The problem was that most western sources were either written by the Allies or were from German generals who survived. In a repudiation of “history is written by the victors” (a phrase that should be expunged in general), almost everything known about the eastern front came from the German side of the story.

          Those generals tended to point fingers at Hitler. Everything would have been dandy if they were the ones in charge.

          Then the Cold War ends, and there’s a flood of new information from the Russian side of things. Western historians start going over the new information, and some new conclusions start to come out. Hitler did fuck a lot of things up personally, but those German generals were full of shit in other ways.

      • SpaceCowboy
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        7
        arrow-down
        1
        ·
        30 days ago

        Well they were probably too loyal to their idiot Fuhrer. Methinks it’s the loyalty part that Trump wants.

        • GoodEye8@lemm.ee
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          6
          ·
          29 days ago

          The generals tried to overthrow or assassinate him on multiple occasions. The most famous one is the plot for the movie “Valkyrie”.

          • mkwt@lemmy.world
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            4
            ·
            29 days ago

            Some generals tried this. Other generals just kind of tried to survive and fight for their country. Still other generals were ideologically Nazis and they fought for the cause.

            Like anything in the real world, it’s a mixed bag.

      • jagged_circle@feddit.nl
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        2
        arrow-down
        1
        ·
        29 days ago

        Wasn’t Blitzkrieg like a brilliant strategy at the time that devastated their opponents?

        • mkwt@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          7
          ·
          29 days ago

          Blitzkrieg was like the American football play of the same name. If you don’t win real fast, you tend to find out that your motorized units are beyond reach of your supply lines. Then they get cut off, and the whole thing can collapse rapidly.

          The Ardennes offensive was pulled off in 72 hours by using the powers of methamphetamine. Seriously, the German army issued a lot of meth to the troops. Imagine what would happen to the combat effectiveness if they had to keep fighting at that pace for a while.

          • captainlezbian@lemmy.world
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            3
            ·
            29 days ago

            Yeah it hasn’t really seen use since because it relies a bit on surprise and can’t handle an opponent that knows how to counter it and is prepared to do so. You buy yourself time. All the time you can. And while you’re doing that you attack their supply lines. They’re sprinting, make the fight a marathon.

            Part of why the blitz worked was that it went against all understood military doctrine. It is both literally and metaphorically the fighting strategy of a meth addict.

        • frezik@midwest.social
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          7
          ·
          edit-2
          29 days ago

          By then, the Battle of Moscow already had winter blizzards setting in, and Germany would be pushed back within a month and start losing from then on. The British had already tossed the Luftwaffe into a wood chipper through the Battle of Britain. The Bismark had been sunk, and that signaled that Plan Z, a plan for building a German surface fleet that could challenge the Royal Navy, was crumpled up and thrown in the toilet.

          It may not have been obvious at the time, but in hindsight, Germany was already set to lose. The only question was how and when. Maybe Russia overruns all of Germany and then effectively controls France. Maybe there’s a negotiated peace before that happens. In any case, Germany was going to come out worse than it went in.

        • mkwt@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          5
          ·
          29 days ago

          This was a serious mistake, yes. And Barbarossa was another serious mistake.

          But I think that Germany was still destined to lose the war anyway, because they were running out of oil and getting out manufactured. And the United States was going to find a way to enter the European theater one way or another.

    • floofloof
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      15
      ·
      30 days ago

      Unfortunately this did not happen very quickly. The years leading up to it were pretty awful.

    • CheeseNoodle@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      1
      ·
      29 days ago

      Exactly, sure ones that just don’t let him do dumb shit would be nicer but its nice to know that if he does somehow succeed in becoming a dictator he’s going to speedrun his way to the coked up hitler making terrible micromanaging decisions stage. Should be enough to balance out the brute force of the US armed forces when the rest of the world is trying to defend itself.

  • dhork@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    39
    arrow-down
    2
    ·
    edit-2
    30 days ago

    I read this entire article, and it made me sad. Because the guy’s probably going to win. The people who need to read this article simply won’t, and they will continue to believe what he tells them.

    • waddle_dee@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      40
      ·
      30 days ago

      The people who need to read the article would, and then complain that it’s all lies to denigrate Trump. It’s a sick joke that I have family members who, “respect the military and those who serve”, but continue to tout Trump as a Messianic figure to save America. The brainwashing/rot is real.

    • UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      1
      ·
      29 days ago

      The people who need to read this article simply won’t

      I mean, its definitely delusional, but its also not out of line with the kind of delusional asshats this country has scattered throughout our body politic. The whole reason we invaded Iraq in '03 was because we had these kinds of Generals. And back then, even Trump was saying how this shit was dumb and would end badly. Now we’ve got half a dozen proxy wars stretching from Ukraine to Yemen to the Philippines - spanning two different presidencies no less - and it seems as though Trump is campaigning on a few more. But then Harris is out campaigning with Liz Cheney who also wants a few more wars.

      This, while living in a country that can’t go four years without diving into another international conflict.

  • peopleproblems@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    34
    ·
    30 days ago

    Goddamn. And he’s potentially president a second time.

    Trump has already caused significant damage. If he wins, we can expect things to get really bad.

    But even if he loses, look at what he’s done. He truly believes personal gain is the only thing someone should ever value. There is no justice for someone like that, other than taking it all away. Forcing him to realize that humanity has only survived because we can work together for collective gain.

  • ohellidk@sh.itjust.works
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    23
    ·
    30 days ago

    what’s his obsession with ballsacks about? wasn’t he just talking about Arnold Palmers junk, now this? kinda sus…

    • undergroundoverground@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      3
      ·
      29 days ago

      Not because they disagreed with him morally or anything of course. They just thought that they could do a better job.

      Tbf, British high command agreed that the potential replacements, which included his best generals, would have been better at leading the nazis. They also realised hitler would kill them all when he found out.

      Still, shame they found out though hey?

      • MehBlah@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        2
        ·
        28 days ago

        Even if they didn’t agree morally they certainly took part in it. Killed in his name and in his vision.

  • humanspiral
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    20
    arrow-down
    1
    ·
    29 days ago

    There was no evidence of election irregeluarities in 2020, and Trump’s “deny everything, and always claim victory” has included admissions by him that there was no evidence, but the philosophy was more important. Generals supporting sending an army to assist insurection, or other unconstitutional acts such as rounding up all Haitians in a city, because a neighbour reported their cat missing, with suspicion of one neighbour (cat came back next day).

    This is as serious of a concern as his promise to provide absolute immunity to all police abuse. Israel’s token concession to ICJ to prosecute rape torture of prisoners, would turn out the same in USA, if Trump supremacists destroy everything with immunity, and those not happy about Trump fascism get fascisted.

    • ayyy@sh.itjust.works
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      19
      ·
      29 days ago

      There was plenty of evidence of election irregularities. People have gone to jail for stuffing extra votes for Trump.